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Thread: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social programs?

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    If you don't want to contribute to the thread, don't. Stop this immaturity, lib.
    just letting you know reposting this is BORING..........

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    No it creates generational voting blocks (kinda like class distinctions).

    It totally perverts the idea of democratic elections, because politicians use them to boogieman old people into voting for them.

    Edit: It's also created a whole society that couldn't fathom living without some sort of government payment and service.
    It's made us into imbecile pets.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    just letting you know reposting this is BORING..........
    To be fair, she is asking a different question.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Well he's exactly right. I don't know how any American wouldn't agree with it 100%. Even cavemen cared for their sick. Being useless to the tribe didn't mean sure death.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Well he's exactly right. I don't know how any American wouldn't agree with it 100%. Even cavemen cared for their sick. Being useless to the tribe didn't mean sure death.
    You're right. No one believes we shouldn't help the needy. However, there is a difference between individual, voluntary charity and forced charity from the government.


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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Well he's exactly right. I don't know how any American wouldn't agree with it 100%. Even cavemen cared for their sick. Being useless to the tribe didn't mean sure death.
    If Social Security and Medicare were solely focused on caring for those who can't care for themselves, you might have a point. But today they are universal old age pension and healthcare programs that are unsustainable.

    Few people object to a basic safety net that cares for those who are truly unable to provide for themselves. But there is a big difference between that and what we presently have.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Yes, I agree with Obama on the specific social programs he mentions. I think those are basic necessities in a civilized country.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    I agree with him. Yes. These speak to who we are and define us in a very positive way. If we did not make these types of committments, we would be less than we are.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    I do not think I would have phrased it just the same way, but yes, I do agree with the sentiment. We are the greatest country on earth, and a big part of why is that we do care enough as a society to take care of the elderly.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
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    I'm asking if you agree with Obama's words. No interpretation here. The rest of your post is ridiculous.
    that is all they can do in this thread or the other... interpret. They have one track minds.

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