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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    For mac:

    Wiki has some nifty info about top employers in PG

    Prince George's County, Maryland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Safeway?? I can understand why some of those kids feel kinda hopeless.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How is it naive? If you worked a minimum wage job, full time and didn't waste money on booze and drugs....you could do just that.
    So no evidence? And no, you could not make it into the middle class lower or sub basement at around $7.00 an hour. Thats a little over $1000.00 a month. Good luck paying rent, electric, water, any kind of repairs for anything, cloths, medical, car, GAS.

    Sorry no cigar.

    Yes naive.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Society doesn't make people dumb. Genetics does that. The majority of the poor are not poor becuase they areof below average intelligence.
    Nice assumption. I did not say anything about below average intelligence. I said because they are not as smart as others. As in who are you going to hire?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There's plenty out there....mainly all the studies surroundeing the welfare reform act of 94.
    And yet you have not posted a single shred that says it is the main cause of poverty in the US.

    Keep digging.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    uhhh, yeah...History, cultural geography....you're going to have to do a lot of reading to catch up on those though. Wiki ain't gonna do it, bro.
    It's not wikki, and it is evidence. Something you have yet to provide.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Let's just say, I've had a history of trying to use sociology and sociological to debate conservatives on issues of race and class. Often my arguments are dismissed out of hand: "Sociology assumes all whites are racist anyway, blah blah blah."
    Not my fault they are stupid.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Until you start debating real right-wing idiots like Amazed.
    The problem is most people who say they are conservative are really just Republicans. Partisan hacks to be certain.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Until you start debating real right-wing idiots like Amazed.
    Good point....
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    For mac:

    Wiki has some nifty info about top employers in PG

    Prince George's County, Maryland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Safeway?? I can understand why some of those kids feel kinda hopeless.
    What county produces the most NBA players? How hard is it to get a govt job if you live in and around DC? I've got local girls in my building with HS diplomas making 60-90k a year.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    What county produces the most NBA players?
    As much as I wish it weren't the case, not everyone can be an NBA player.

    How hard is it to get a govt job if you live in and around DC?
    Again, as much as Americans at pissed at all the waste, fraud, and abuse, government jobs and positions are still limited and competitive.

    I've got local girls in my building with HS diplomas making 60-90k a year.
    Great, can you hook me up? I'm a history major and i'ma be fkin broke right outta college.

    With the job, not the girls. Actually girls would be nice too XD
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Since when did sociology become the realm of liberals only? I mean I was an anthropology major, and sociology is a large part of that.

    Or is it because it has the word "social" in it.
    I have a bachelors in social psych, and graduate/post grad degrees in counseling and counseling psychology. Im very conservative. Yeah...its a ball for me at conferences, let me tell ya!

    What you frequently find is that the young ideologues that get into the social work aspect are the starry eye'd gonna change the world one lost soul at a time types. If they manage to last more than a few years in the field (many dont), that gets burned out of their system and they often become very realistic and effective social workers/case managers/therapists. Some just get their 'give a damn' busted.

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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    As much as I wish it weren't the case, not everyone can be an NBA player.
    You're right, but where do the majority come from.

    Again, as much as Americans at pissed at all the waste, fraud, and abuse, government jobs and positions are still limited and competitive.
    To be honest, a fair amount of them only really require no criminal record. They won't make you rich, but they'll make you middle class.

    Great, can you hook me up? I'm a history major and i'ma be fkin broke right outta college.
    www.usajobs.gov

    State Department likes history majors (I'm a history major)

    With the job, not the girls. Actually girls would be nice too XD
    I'd start with the job....the girls will come.
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    Re: Do you agree with Obama that we wouldn't be a great country without social progra

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I have a bachelors in social psych, and graduate/post grad degrees in counseling and counseling psychology. Im very conservative. Yeah...its a ball for me at conferences, let me tell ya!

    What you frequently find is that the young ideologues that get into the social work aspect are the starry eye'd gonna change the world one lost soul at a time types. If they manage to last more than a few years in the field (many dont), that gets burned out of their system and they often become very realistic and effective social workers/case managers/therapists. Some just get their 'give a damn' busted.
    My sister is an MSW, and she pretty much told me the exact same thing.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
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