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    Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant fined $100,000 for directing homophobic slur at ref - ESPN Los Angeles

    After receiving a technical foul during Tuesday's game against the San Antonio Spurs, Bryant stormed to the bench, hit his seat before sitting down, threw a towel and then yelled "Bennie!" toward referee Bernie Adams. Bryant then leaned back and muttered a gay slur.
    This isn't about the legality of Kobe Bryant's gay slur. This is simply a debate as to whether or not you agree the fine was appropriate, and whether you think what he said was a big deal or if it is being blown out of proportion.
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    I'm honestly tired of political correctness in this country. Yes, he used a slur. Did he mean to offend gay people? no, and I don't think the referee was gay either. Kobe's known for saying the n-word all the time on the court, don't think they've ever fined him for that. If you get all up in arms about it, that only gives the word more power. I know many fellow liberals might disagree with me on this one.

    He should ONLY be fined for talking back at the ref because that is unsportsmanlike conduct; honestly this got so much more media hype than it deserved because he used a slur. If he had just said "bitch" or something like that I'm not sure if it would have been this big of an issue. Seriously, if Kobe had said "bitch," would a female canine advocacy group start bitching?

    As an aside, a few weeks ago there was a campaign by a student group on campus to eliminate the word "retard" from speech. I was like, seriously?
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    The team has the right to fine him, and its exercise of that right does not bother me. Kobe's actions affect the image of the team itself. They damage the team's legitimate objective to portray itself as a professional organization comprised of athletes who conduct themselves in a sportsman-like manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    The team has the right to fine him, and them exercising that right does not bother me. His actions affect the image of the team itself. They no doubt have the legitimate objective of portraying themselves as a professional team composed of respectful athletes who conduct themselves in a sportsman-like manner.
    Just a little clarification, it was the League that fined him, not the Lakers team organization.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Just a little clarification, it was the League that fined him, not the Lakers team organization.
    Thank you. Fortunately, that doesn't change my opinion.

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Thank you. Fortunately, that doesn't change my opinion.
    I agree. The NBA markets a particular product, it does have professional standards to uphold and a public image to craft, and unsportsmanlike conduct should be penalized.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    If I were the NBA, I would be more upset with TNT for putting the camera on a grown man who is clearly angry. Did they really think he wouldn't be doing some cursing? I don't think this is a big deal. I call my friends queer all the time and I have friends who are gay that do the same. All about context...

    PS: I am a Celtics fan so it is rare for me to defend Kobe...
    Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    If I were the NBA, I would be more upset with TNT for putting the camera on a grown man who is clearly angry. Did they really think he wouldn't be doing some cursing? I don't think this is a big deal. I call my friends queer all the time and I have friends who are gay that do the same. All about context...

    PS: I am a Celtics fan so it is rare for me to defend Kobe...
    I agree; even Steve Kerr was like "you might wanna take the camera off that angry man right now" LOL.

    I wonder if KG the potty mouth has ever been fined for anything similar.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I agree. The NBA markets a particular product, it does have professional standards to uphold and a public image to craft, and unsportsmanlike conduct should be penalized.
    This is it. It's not that he used a gay slur, it's that he was caught doing something that makes the league look bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    If I were the NBA, I would be more upset with TNT for putting the camera on a grown man who is clearly angry. Did they really think he wouldn't be doing some cursing? I don't think this is a big deal. I call my friends queer all the time and I have friends who are gay that do the same. All about context...

    PS: I am a Celtics fan so it is rare for me to defend Kobe...
    You are right, but it does not change the fact that players should know better than to do things like this. Besides, it's not like 100k really matters much to him.
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    If I were the NBA, I would be more upset with TNT for putting the camera on a grown man who is clearly angry. Did they really think he wouldn't be doing some cursing? I don't think this is a big deal. I call my friends queer all the time and I have friends who are gay that do the same. All about context...

    PS: I am a Celtics fan so it is rare for me to defend Kobe...
    Really. It's TNT's fault. *Shakin' head here*

    I'm not sure if he'd have been fined if it hadn't been caught on camera, but, nonetheless, I'm glad to see the NBA take a stand against particularly distasteful unsportsmanlike conduct. If he has endorsements, maybe he'll lose some of those if this gets legs.
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