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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Words can change meaning over time depending on use. Fag used to be a bundle of sticks. Gay used to be happy. The words got used differently and changed meanings. If you use it differently now, you're just aiding in the evolution of the word. One can quite easily say "that's gay" or call some asshole a "fag" without insinuating anything about homosexuals. Fag can be changed to mean asshole Harley riders, not homosexuals. Gay can be changed to lame. Language never has been, and never will be, static.
    All legalities aside, we all know the mainstream connotation of fag, so let's not pretend otherwise - and when it's in front of a wide audience, it is going to be taken one way.

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I can recall a time when people flipped out if you called them "bastard" or "bitch", but hardly anyone bats an eye at those terms today.
    Bitch used to be an insult you yelled at women, now you can say it to anyone.
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    All legalities aside, we all know the mainstream connotation of fag
    Yup. Loud, obnoxious, Harley riders.
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    only because he is too stupid to know what "lame" means.

    seriously, I don't know many people, straight or gay, that would flip out if someone called them a faggot. the word has already lost much of its "power". it says more about the person using it than the person it is used against.

    I can recall a time when people flipped out if you called them "bastard" or "bitch", but hardly anyone bats an eye at those terms today.
    I agree with that - and to be honest, people who flip out at any insult give it too much power over them. I just take issue with the idea that the insults "fag" and "gay" are completely removed from homosexuality.

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I just take issue with the idea that the insults "fag" and "gay" are completely removed from homosexuality.
    I would say that they're becoming removed though. Due to the excessive use of the words for things which are not homosexual.
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Bitch used to be an insult you yelled at women, now you can say it to anyone.
    and nobody flips out over it. One of my army buddies and I use that as our standard greeting. "What's up bitch?"
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I would say that they're becoming removed though. Due to the excessive use of the words for things which are not homosexual.
    I agree with you and I think it's eventually going to become as neutral as bitch. That said, we aren't that far yet.

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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    What I find amusing about this is that the NBA fined Kobe for using a gay slur, presumably because of image issues, but they have no problem with his image as a rapist and woman beater
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree with you and I think it's eventually going to become as neutral as bitch. That said, we aren't that far yet.
    True, but to get there you must continue using the word in non-homosexuality related topics. Such as loud, obnoxious Harley riders. South Park is right, Fag won't go away; it's just too fun to say. So you have to change the meaning of the word.
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    Re: Kobe Bryant Fined $100,000 for gay slur

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    What I find amusing about this is that the NBA fined Kobe for using a gay slur, presumably because of image issues, but they have no problem with his image as a rapist and woman beater
    I thought about that too - priorities are clearly not in line.

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