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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    “It will never pass the Senate.” — Sen. Charles Schumer

    I think not. It would be asking a lot of Republican House members to in effect “walk the plank” for a bill that they know will never pass the Senate, not even close.
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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    Not in it's current form, no.
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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    I could see it passing the House, but not the Senate. And Obama would veto it. But I'm not sure that would stop the House from passing it. It probably depends on the public. Right now the public doesn't seem that satisfied with the proposal, but neither do they seem to hate it, so I wouldn't be surprised if it passed in the House.

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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    I voted that the Ryan budget will pass in the House. It doesn't really matter since it will be dead on arrival in the Senate.

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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    The house will pass it. But denied in the senate and by president.

    I like it, i wish it would go through, especially after hearing all the criticism on the presidents budget speech... i would much rather have ryans

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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    The house will pass it. But denied in the senate and by president.

    I like it, i wish it would go through, especially after hearing all the criticism on the presidents budget speech... i would much rather have ryans
    What do you like about it? Have you read the CBO report on it?

    I think odds are slightly against it passing in the house in it's current form. Once democrats start pointing out the way the tax cuts are formulated(capping the top rate, but not lowering the lower rates) and the major problems with Medicare(notice that it has to be delayed till 2022 so republicans don't lose the senior vote over it), I think republicans will formulate a different plan. However, it would not surprise me if it did pass. Of course, as pointed out, it will never get past the senate and the president would never sign it, so the point is moot. Conversely, the new plan the president is reportedly working on will never get past the house in the form it is reported on being in.
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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What do you like about it? Have you read the CBO report on it?

    I think odds are slightly against it passing in the house in it's current form. Once democrats start pointing out the way the tax cuts are formulated(capping the top rate, but not lowering the lower rates) and the major problems with Medicare(notice that it has to be delayed till 2022 so republicans don't lose the senior vote over it), I think republicans will formulate a different plan. However, it would not surprise me if it did pass. Of course, as pointed out, it will never get past the senate and the president would never sign it, so the point is moot. Conversely, the new plan the president is reportedly working on will never get past the house in the form it is reported on being in.
    Just to correct a minor error, but Paul Ryan cited the Debt Commission's proposal to simplify and lower all tax rates if deductions were closed. The mention of the top tax rate was no rate would go beyond that.

    The Medicare stuff will be the real killer. Granted Ryan carved it out in such a manner that protects the Republican's most reliable voting bloc, but I think once Democrats begin attacking how future costs will cripple anyone under 55 that is not rich it will be hard for Republicans to justify the health care approach that they have taken.

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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post

    Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?
    It might.

    The issue with Republican Congressmen is getting pass the primary. Republican voters tend not to like compromise in the officials they elect. So Republican Congressmen may feel force to vote for it at some point so they don't get attacked from the far-right. They may do so knowing that it will never pass the Senate.

    So a Republican Congressman who is against the Ryan budget bill could still vote for it even though s/he's personally against it if only so s/he can get re-elected by his constituents and be assured the bill will never get passed in the Senate. If there are enough Republican Congressmen who feel that way, that's certainly a viable scenario.
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    Re: Will the House ever pass the Ryan budget?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    The house will pass it. But denied in the senate and by president.

    I like it, i wish it would go through, especially after hearing all the criticism on the presidents budget speech... i would much rather have ryans
    I have a feeling that if Ryan were President there'd be just as much criticism over his budget speech.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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