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What is the Tea Party to America?


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tea party report Lansing Michigan part 2

A very nice lady sold me a souvenier which was kind of clever - a box of tea party tea. She was doing a brisk business and had sold all but her final box and told me I could have it at half price so I jumped at since I collect political stuff.

One fellow gave me a clever thing - it was a parody on the old Norman Rockwell 'triple self portrait' painting. This one has Obama as Rockwell looking into the same Rockwell mirror and painting a picture of Jesus on canvas. Got to admit that the tea party is upping its game and this was much much cleverer than the Curios George with Obama stickers that some used back in the McCain/Palin campaign.

This was a very short rally - from start to finish only 90 minutes. The union one yesterday with lots more participation lasted seven hours. Most of them at least three or four hours.

When the crowd broke up, almost everyone used the various sidewalks and would not walk on the grass. I do not know what that says about them - if anything - but thats rare here as the lawn takes a terrific beating on these events.

Lets hope those pics come out. Lots of what I feel will be good ones.


Haymarket! I can't believe it! You didn't even mention that Herman Cain was there to speak! You missed a chance to shake hands with the next president of the United States! You're going to regret that someday ;)
It's a shame it wasn't a larger crowd though. Could be because he very seldom gets any media coverage for some reason.
Here's the tea party rally and Cains speech. At the 11:00 minute mark he talks about how the tea party is called the racist name, but he has a whole list of names he is called and he keeps adding to it each time they come up with a new one. :)
 
Black Republicans run for office, even if the ones you know don't. In the last election, 32 blacks ran as Republicans -- two got elected. Those would also be the only 2 black Republicans in all of Congress and only the 5th and 6th black Republican since 1900.

Conservatives and Republicans don't like electing blacks.

You can invent any excuse you want -- history speaks louder than excuses.

Not sure where you get you speculations, but I and my conservative / republican friends do not see Race as a factor, I would never vote for a person because of race, only qualifications. I am Cuban, when I lived in Miami I skipped over cuban candidates because they did not meet the level of qualifications for that office in my eyes. I REFUSE to interject Race in any decision I make. That is racist even if I voted for a Latino candidate just because he was Latino.

Most of those "Black Candidates" were running against Democratic Incumbent in strong democratic districts. Like Chicago’s Second Congressional District, for example, Jesse Jackson Jr. won with 90 percent of the vote, Isaac Hayes, a conservative black Republican never had a chance because of the Black Community Stigma. I say this because mosts blacks are Ideologicly moderate to conservative yet they vote democrat.

Indian-American Nikki Haley won the governorship in South Carolina, becoming both that state’s first female and first minority governor, and the nation’s second Indian-American governor (the other being Republican Bobby Jindal in Louisiana). Tim Scott, a black conservative Republican, won his race for the U.S. House in SC-1, a district which is over 70% white. Allen West, a black conservative Republican and military veteran, won in FL-22. Marco Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants,

In Texas, conservative Hispanic Republicans. Bill Flores in TX-17 and Francisco “Quico” Canseco in TX-23. both won in historicly democratic districts, Farther down the ballot in Texas, minority Republicans made substantial gains in the Texas House of Representatives. Larry Gonzales won in central Texas’ HD-52; Jose Aliseda won in a surprising upset in HD-35; John Garza won in HD-117; James White, who is black, defeated Democratic incumbent Jim McReynolds in HD-12 in northeast Texas; and Stefani Carter, who is also black, defeated Democratic incumbent Carol Kent in HD-102. On the State Board of Education, Charlie Garza defeated Rene Nunez in west Texas’ SBOE Place 1. All of these seats represent pick-ups for the GOP and for minority Republicans. For years, Democrats in Texas have pinned their hopes of a return to power on holding onto the black vote and capturing an increasing share of the Hispanic vote. The 2010elections show that the first line could be cracking, and the second may be a fading possibility.

New Mexico has replaced its Democratic governor, Bill Richards, with native Texan and conservative Republican Susana Martinez. Martinez is New Mexico’s first female governor, and the first female Hispanic governor anywhere. That she ran on the issue of border security, and won, speaks volumes.

I think that if the republicans can field more black and minority candidates in more white districts, you will be bigger gains. You see; so many people BELIEVE like you do that republicans won't vote for a black or minority candidates, where in reality Democrats in democratic districts will not vote for a black republican. Again I CAN CARE LESS ABOUT the race of a candidate, He just needs to meet my qualifications of a fiscal conservative. Thats what happened to the 30 blacks Republicans that lost, they were up against a Democratic incumbent in a democratic district, they never had a chance.
 
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Black Republicans run for office, even if the ones you know don't. In the last election, 32 blacks ran as Republicans -- two got elected. Those would also be the only 2 black Republicans in all of Congress and only the 5th and 6th black Republican since 1900.

Conservatives and Republicans don't like electing blacks.

You can invent any excuse you want -- history speaks louder than excuses.

Gosh...maybe if only republicans had a Sheila Jackson Lee, Charlie Rangel, William Jefferson, a Marion Barry, or a John Conyers to vote for...

I dont know the political races you have followed where a superior candidate was not elected simply because he or she was black. But I can point to an awful lot that WERE who's only qualification is their skin color. And you can start in the White House.
 
If you see socialist everywhere, you are extreme, if not a little paranoid as well. :coffeepap

And if you refuse to see socialism when it's right under your nose, what does that make you?
 
Going back to OP. People who feel Taxed Enough Already do not trust the government with money. The government needs to remember that tax revenues come from our pockets. The government also needs to realize that it does not do a good job spending within its means.
 
Black Republicans run for office, even if the ones you know don't. In the last election, 32 blacks ran as Republicans -- two got elected. Those would also be the only 2 black Republicans in all of Congress and only the 5th and 6th black Republican since 1900.

Conservatives and Republicans don't like electing blacks.

You can invent any excuse you want -- history speaks louder than excuses.

It usually helps when we know more about each candidates' situation, and not excuses which you keep providing.
 
Gosh...maybe if only republicans had a Sheila Jackson Lee, Charlie Rangel, William Jefferson, a Marion Barry, or a John Conyers to vote for...

I dont know the political races you have followed where a superior candidate was not elected simply because he or she was black. But I can point to an awful lot that WERE who's only qualification is their skin color. And you can start in the White House.

i would say that was a bit much. president obama was remarkably under expierienced compared to his opposition....and many did vote for him simply because of his skin color. but, he is a very intelligent and capable man. to say that his skin color is his only qualification is simply not appropriate.
 
And if you refuse to see socialism when it's right under your nose, what does that make you?

Some one who knows what Socialism actually is.
 
i would say that was a bit much. president obama was remarkably under expierienced compared to his opposition....and many did vote for him simply because of his skin color. but, he is a very intelligent and capable man. to say that his skin color is his only qualification is simply not appropriate.

Really? Other than he gives good speech...what exactly put him in even the POSITION to be a presidential candidate other than his skin color? He is a failed community organizer, was gifted a speech making job at college, voted 'present' more time than yes or no as a state legislator and served all of...what...4 years as a senator? I dont know...I dont buy it. If he wasnt a 'clean well spoken black man' he would have no less credentials to run for president than many on this blog.
 
Really? Other than he gives good speech...what exactly put him in even the POSITION to be a presidential candidate other than his skin color? He is a failed community organizer, was gifted a speech making job at college, voted 'present' more time than yes or no as a state legislator and served all of...what...4 years as a senator? I dont know...I dont buy it. If he wasnt a 'clean well spoken black man' he would have no less credentials to run for president than many on this blog.

Obamae just comes off as impressive and likable and smart. I, a lot can just tell if that is someone I trust or not. I just feel it. Look at how I have jumped on the Trump bandwagon. Karl Rove says he's not serious. Somebody told me he has 3 bankruptcies. But I don't care. That's my guy. I can just tell.
 
Obamae just comes off as impressive and likable and smart. I, a lot can just tell if that is someone I trust or not. I just feel it. Look at how I have jumped on the Trump bandwagon. Karl Rove says he's not serious. Somebody told me he has 3 bankruptcies. But I don't care. That's my guy. I can just tell.

I'm really hoping you just forgot to add the {sarcasm} icon. :)
 
Obamae just comes off as impressive and likable and smart. I, a lot can just tell if that is someone I trust or not. I just feel it. Look at how I have jumped on the Trump bandwagon. Karl Rove says he's not serious. Somebody told me he has 3 bankruptcies. But I don't care. That's my guy. I can just tell.

He gives good teleprompter. Hell he doesnt even write his own material-he had a Hollywood screenwriter writing his campaign speeches. He is a puppet...an actor that mouths other peoples words. He looks like a bigger doofus than Bush when he has to answer in depth questions without a script. He was elected for one reason and one reason alone. His skin color. Hillarty was a vastly superior candidate and has proven so by her handling of the conflicts in the middle east. Obama was elected because black folks had a black candidate (any candidate-they didnt know him or his policies as proven by the many pre-election interviews) to vote for. Liberals could vote for him and show how colorblind they were...tragic when in fact the only they voted for him WAS color. Some whites voted for him so they could say...fine...he cant be any worse than McCain and at least we can put this whole black and white thing behind us.
 
I'm really hoping you just forgot to add the {sarcasm} icon. :)

I have the hots for Donald Trump. I never got those feelings about Obama. I'm was just thiking of an illogical reason for voting for someone.
 
Obamae just comes off as impressive and likable and smart. I, a lot can just tell if that is someone I trust or not. I just feel it. Look at how I have jumped on the Trump bandwagon. Karl Rove says he's not serious. Somebody told me he has 3 bankruptcies. But I don't care. That's my guy. I can just tell.
The question would be is trump still bankrupt..no he not and that's a neat trick.
 
Not sure where you get you speculations, but I and my conservative / republican friends do not see Race as a factor, I would never vote for a person because of race, only qualifications.
And I completely believe that. I also believe that for the most part, Conservatives don't view many blacks as competent as whites; hence, they've elected only 6 out of the last 26,000 Congressional races. Accepting your premise, and I do, I narrow it down to one of two things: either blacks who run are not as competent as whites, therefore Conservatives don't elect many blacks, or blacks are at least as competent as whites, but Conservatives don't view them as such.

Suffice it to say, I don't believe the former is true.
 
He is the least qualified candidate in modern history....


i would say that was a bit much. president obama was remarkably under expierienced compared to his opposition....and many did vote for him simply because of his skin color. but, he is a very intelligent and capable man. to say that his skin color is his only qualification is simply not appropriate.
 
Really? Other than he gives good speech...what exactly put him in even the POSITION to be a presidential candidate other than his skin color? He is a failed community organizer, was gifted a speech making job at college, voted 'present' more time than yes or no as a state legislator and served all of...what...4 years as a senator? I dont know...I dont buy it. If he wasnt a 'clean well spoken black man' he would have no less credentials to run for president than many on this blog.

well, he did hold other political offices briefly. he's well educated and genuinly intelligent.

what exactly are the requirements you think he doesnt have that say, carter or eisenhower did have?
 
Ummmm, he served as a Senator for 18 months, and voted "present" the majority of the time....

He was a "Community Organizer".....meaning no real job....

He never said ONE real thing during his campaign...the man is a zero.





well, he did hold other political offices briefly. he's well educated and genuinly intelligent.

what exactly are the requirements you think he doesnt have that say, carter or eisenhower did have?
 
well, he did hold other political offices briefly. he's well educated and genuinly intelligent.

what exactly are the requirements you think he doesnt have that say, carter or eisenhower did have?

Carter was a governor and a military leader. Ike was a military leader. Obama was elected as a state rep were he did nothing and a senator where he did nothing. Im not knocking him personally. But other than the fact that he gave good speeches written by other people, he would as Bill Clinton put it, still be getting us coffee.
 
Policies are not the only way of determining racism. No party could outwardly promote racist policies in this day and age, they'd be swallowed whole if they tried. But just look at the voting record of Republican candidates, who are elected primarily by Conservatives, which is primarily who comprises the Tea Party. In the last 100 years, there have been a grand total of 6 black Republicans. Until three months ago, there were none, and even now, there are only two.

Actions speak for them.

Sorry read through what I originally posted, what you are doing is a causation = correlation mistake. I'm not saying that every individual that associates themselves as tea partier's are not racist but as a whole the organization only asks for fiscal responsibility. How is that racist, the tea party does not discriminate against black people, black people just do not agree with their policies as a whole. So if they as a group are non discriminatory and their policies are non discriminatory, how are they racist?
 
I like a lot of what they stand for. But their organization seems to bring out more crazies than the Republicans and Democrats combined.
 
Carter was a governor and a military leader. Ike was a military leader. Obama was elected as a state rep were he did nothing and a senator where he did nothing. Im not knocking him personally. But other than the fact that he gave good speeches written by other people, he would as Bill Clinton put it, still be getting us coffee.

carter was a humdrum governor and a crappy military leader. Ike was a stellar leader in the military, which helps, but doesn't necessarily qualify one for President. He had no political training which is akin to the new justice being appointed with no experience as a judge.

I'm no great fan of President Obama, VM, but his expierience was just as good as a great many that have served. His knowledge of law, at a minimum, is probably greater than most.
 
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I like a lot of what they stand for. But their organization seems to bring out more crazies than the Republicans and Democrats combined.

It's where the really mad people go.

My oldest brother and his wife are like leaders of it. They're about the most normal people I know but he loves talking to his little brother about consevative stuff. And he has nothing against liberals. He says they're the grandparents and cosrvatives are the parents.
 
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