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The Tea Party Is.....

What is the Tea Party to America?


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This is bull****, and I think you know it's bull****. Dishonest debate like this is just sad. If all you can do is make straw men and try and dishonestly smear the other side, you are part of the problem in this country.

It was a joke. Bring it down a notch, Redress.
 
So being against dadt, against government involvment in who gets married, agaimst coporate welfare, for cutting the budget including the military, against the war on drugs. As one who also applauds the works of a democrat corey booker in newark, who has said that he would vote for him if he still lived there. Who would consider him for governer over most others except christie.


These things lead you to believe i am a "far right winger"?

Please do you really want to hitch your wagon to the likes of haymarket?

I have an open challenge to him to prove i am an "extreme right winger".... Thus far he is an abject failure.


So i kick the question to you.


How is the GOod REverend an "extreme right winger"?


I do not deny that many of my positions are right wing but this idiptic mouth foaming that i am some sort og extremist is intellectually lacking and dishknest in nature.

I wont hold my breath.

I stand partially corrected.

My statement was based on what I've seen of your positions here.

And your tendency to jump in in support of right positions when they are being successfully argued against.

I was expressing my impression of you that I have gathered over the past several months.

I just must not have run across your support of the issues you mention, because I DO remember those sorts of things, where I agree with those I usually disagree with.

I really wasn't trying to offend, just giving my perspective on a comment that sounded strange to me.:2wave:
 
I stand partially corrected.

My statement was based on what I've seen of your positions here.


For example?.....


And your tendency to jump in in support of right positions when they are being successfully argued against.

Links. I tend to have my own positions, the success of other posters is irrellevant to my posts... Any examples?


I was expressing my impression of you that I have gathered over the past several months.

I just must not have run across your support of the issues you mention, because I DO remember those sorts of things, where I agree with those I usually disagree with.

I really wasn't trying to offend, just giving my perspective on a comment that sounded strange to me.:2wave:


I think you have been influenced by some unintelligent people who put thier politics before rational thought. Get to know me you will see, I hold some socially conservative values personally but am politically libertarian, i.e. I may personally believe in marriage is between man and a woman, but it's none of my business nor is it my right to impose this view upon others as it deprives them of thier human rights. Which is why for example I support the government only register "civil unions" and get out of the marriage business all together.

I also don't believe every left winger is an "extremist" like some here on the left do of the right (this thread). You got caught up in haymarket's typical game of making false claims about me then running scared when asked to back it up. Like I said, don't hitch your wagon to that is my advice.
 
Could you please tell me what views specifically you feel constitute the following individuals as extremists:

Pat Toomey
Mike Lee
Nikki Haley
Mo Brooks
Ron Johnson
Marco Rubio
Kristi Noem

For a group that was "extreme across the board" it shouldn't be hard to tell us specifically why you feel a good handle of them I just listed aren't extreme.

If you want to concede that those aren't extreme, you could list me the ones you do think are extreme and see if your lists and what I can generate seems to suggest extremism "across the board" of their candidates.

They are extremist because they dont buy into the philosophy that its OK for the fed to continue spend 1.5 TRILLION more every year than what they take in in taxes. its extreme to believe the government should be fiscally responsible.

Im an extremist too.
 
I don't know bit buying tea at the store and dumping it on the ground wasn't emulating the Boston Tea Party.

It was littering and wasting food.

Just imagine all the chirruns that went hungry because they couldnt eat their tea...:roll:
 
And far left extremists such as yourself fail at providing a shred of evidencew for your lies.



No my right wing views are indeed right wing, my libertarian views are libertarian. I never argued against this.




I'm not pissed, amused actually at how easy it is to embarrass you, boo, what if, and others.




YOU HAVEN'T "PRESENTED" JACK.... seriously, you say "extreme right wing views" but can't name them.





When you lie about me, you libel me.





Nah, I no longer expect any integrity from partisan hacks. It's not in your nature.


Tell you what. Tell me who are the right wingers here at DP who are not "extreme right wingers"

Name 5...


Point is, I value the views of all sides, and can name numerous posters in fact most here as not "extremist" yourstar, redress, CC, among others. See I get along with 99% of folks here, it's true believers like you who need to make themselves feel better by lying about my position and failing to back up said lie.





you hazlnut, bubba, what if, and boo do not make up "people".


You make up a consortium of far left ideological politcal hacks.




Still waiting for you to list my "extreme right wing positions". :roll:

Ummm.

No.

I stated my perception of you.

Now you angrily express your perception of me in retaliation.

Doing to me what you protest being done to you.

Before you saw my explanation of my comment.

Awesomeness indeed.:2wave:
 
Ummm.

No.

I stated my perception of you.

Now you angrily express your perception of me in retaliation.

Doing to me what you protest being done to you.

Before you saw my explanation of my comment.

Awesomeness indeed.:2wave:



You ignored my post, I brought it up, now that you answered it, I am more than happy to let it go, unless you like being in that company. ;)



edit to add, I did ask you some follow up questions.
 
I know this is futile, but do you have evidence that these folks started the tea party?

I never said they did.

I said they coopted it in a failed attempt to rebrand the Republican Party.

Which turned into a movement in its own right.

And has been a thorn in the side of the mainstream Republican party ever since.

I have said this consistently.:2wave:
 
I think people are annoyed with the word "extremism" to describe the Tea Party because the democratic caucus instructed it's use in interviews. Just as the word "McCarthyism" is to be used when discussing Donald Trump.

"Extreme" used to describe the Tea Party, "annoys" me because it's just another lie about the TP. If anyone is extreme, it's this administation and their out of control spending. Their total lack of concern about our financial situation is mind boggling. Obama is "extremely" disconnected from the American people.
There is an "extreme" left at work in this country. The likes ofGeorge Soros, Francis Fox Piven, Unions, socialist and communist orgs, are all part of it, but ignored by the media. The Koch brother on the other hand are a danger because they give to a party that wants us to return to our constitution and fiscal responsibility. Fox news is extreme because they have "demonized" the Union protests while standing with the Tea Party and conservative governors who are trying to balance their budgets.
It would all be funny if it wasn't so infuriating and serious. I just hope conservatives and the TP continues to have a voice on cable, the internet, and talk radio.
We must stay vigilent when it comes to the 1st amendment. If people like Pelosi, Bernie Sanders, and others in congress have their way and "reform" the media, we may be stuck with al jazeera for all our information.
 
I never said they did.

I said they coopted it in a failed attempt to rebrand the Republican Party.

Which turned into a movement in its own right.

And has been a thorn in the side of the mainstream Republican party ever since.

I have said this consistently.:2wave:


wait, you never said:


Your right except that they started a few months earlier than that. Tax day 2009 was just bigger and they got noticed.



Yes, by Dick Armey and the Koch brothers. And their PR staff.



Really? you never said this?
 
Yea, you're right, but since it wasn't Halloween, they just looked like idiots.

How many zombie outbreaks occur on Halloween? That's right, none. You should have gotten in on the action. You know you wanted to. You want to groan and limp around, you know it! ;)
 
For example?.....




Links. I tend to have my own positions, the success of other posters is irrellevant to my posts... Any examples?





I think you have been influenced by some unintelligent people who put thier politics before rational thought. Get to know me you will see, I hold some socially conservative values personally but am politically libertarian, i.e. I may personally believe in marriage is between man and a woman, but it's none of my business nor is it my right to impose this view upon others as it deprives them of thier human rights. Which is why for example I support the government only register "civil unions" and get out of the marriage business all together.

I also don't believe every left winger is an "extremist" like some here on the left do of the right (this thread). You got caught up in haymarket's typical game of making false claims about me then running scared when asked to back it up. Like I said, don't hitch your wagon to that is my advice.

Ok, truce.

But I am going to point out your responses to me IN THIS THREAD posted by you in between the time of my original post and my response to your response

Pretty hot and aggressive, considering that I may have been away from the board at some point during my day.

So maybe my perception wasn't totally off base?:2wave:
 
Ok, truce.

But I am going to point out your responses to me IN THIS THREAD posted by you in between the time of my original post and my response to your response

Pretty hot and aggressive, considering that I may have been away from the board at some point during my day.

So maybe my perception wasn't totally off base?:2wave:



But you weren't AFK, you were responding to later posts, and again after I reposted it. What perception? Do only extreme right wingers demand folks back up their claims about other posters? :confused:
 
Besides the niggar sign?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

"And other than that one moment, how did you like the play Mrs. Lincoln?"

I'm sorry but I refuse to get all up in arms about one "niggar" sign, whatever that means.
Common Cause a progressive org (watchdog group who looks for corrupt republicans) are in this video calling for the hanging of Clarence Thomas.
One wants to put him "back out in the fields" Another wants to cut off his toes and feed them to him. That's just a couple disgusting things said. I think there is like seven things that if said about a Dem it would have been all over the news for weeks.
You want me to get upset over a "niggar" sign?:lamo
I hope you have some outrage for your side after viewing this sick video of liberals protesting a Koch bro. conference.
 
Indeed I did.

...and they got noticed.

By Dick Armey and.....

See.:2wave:




who said noticed? you didnt. B-train didnt?


In fact:

Your right except that they started a few months earlier than that


You responded "by dick army and kock", you never stated "noticed".... If you meant noticed, you should say noticed next time.
 
YO I just had this amazing idea! How about everyone tries to stop taking the actions of a few a-holes and trying to apply them to the 'other side.' Instead, let's just have a civil debate, which include things like facts and manners?

How does that sound to everyone?
 
But you weren't AFK, you were responding to later posts, and again after I reposted it. What perception? Do only extreme right wingers demand folks back up their claims about other posters? :confused:

Dude, as soon as I saw your response I answered.

Look at the time stamps or whatever.

I had responded before I read all your later attacks.

And it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove a perception, as it is merely how I see things, not a factual statement.
 
Dude, as soon as I saw your response I answered.

Look at the time stamps or whatever.

I had responded before I read all your later attacks.

And it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove a perception, as it is merely how I see things, not a factual statement.



:shrug: lets see how you move foward, you can get with the likes of a haymarket, or the likes of those more open minded to others ideas. Your call my friend. :thumbs:
 
who said noticed? you didnt. B-train didnt?


In fact:




You responded "by dick army and kock", you never stated "noticed".... If you meant noticed, you should say noticed next time.

The second sentence in your quote from Barbbtx ends with "noticed".

That was the sentence I was referrng to.

Obviously links won't prove anything to you as you only see what you want to see.

Sheesh!
 
REV,
Since you challenged me, I will provide you what you asked for.And in doing this I have no doubt that when I or others make your views the focus of a post, you then scream and complain that you are being attacked, you are being made the focus of the thread, the attack on you is off topic, and you are entitled to an apology since nothing anybody comes up with ever satisfies you.

Here is a list of things that most certainly identifies most of your views are conservative, some in the extreme. Collectively, they place you firmly on the far right wing of American politics.

Anyone who desires, including yourself, can do a search of past threads and get your own words. Quite frankly, its not worth my time to do so and in the end you simply deny it anyway. We went round and round on this with the Obama mockery MESIAH thread that you started and even when I reproduced your own posts word for word or privided links, you tried to weasal out of your own statements.

So your "prove it or apologize" schtick has been exposed for the intellectual fraud it is and rings hollow. You have no credibility in playing this game.

Here are isues where you fall firmly on the right wing
- Almost any issue involving African Americans from old civil rights laws to affirmative action to ripping into African American politicians whenever you get the chance
- Abortion and a womens right to decide her own reproductive processes
- Unions and the rights of unionized workers
- Guns and gun owner rights and government laws involving them
- Economics and the issues impacting common working people
- President Obama and your eagerness to attack him at the drop of a hat on the vast majority of things he does
-Public education and teachers
- Your loud and vocal support for right wing conservative politicians and the media which supports and backs them
- Your loud and vocal criticism approaching vitriol and outright hatred of liberal politicians and the media which may support them

And if all that is not enough, you exhibit a mean spiritedness towards all things liberal or progressive that borders on the pathological. Its like some clown attacked you as a small child with the word LIBERAL stamped on his chest and traumatized you forever. Its downright disturbing at times the extremes you go to in attacking liberals, progressives and almost anyone not on the far right with you.

Of course, none of this will do any good. You want to be a extremist and far rightwinger but for some reason known only to you prefer not to be thought of as such. Well kiss that hope goodbye since people here have already identified you as a right winger and your views as extremist.

And perhaps you can fill us in on that reason.... why do you run from the label of being on the right?
 
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Rev, everytime this comes up you do several things
1) challenge people to show that your extremist views are extremist
2) insist that your right wing views are not right wing
3) get royally pissed off when people do just that and begin whining about "don't make this about me and stick to the topic of the thread"
4) refuse to accept anything that people actually present to you abouit your own extremism
5) tell the world that you have been libeled
6) demand an apology from the offending parties
It's prabably not very easy being smarter than everyone, I seems. I like to just show some respect for someone like the Reverend and see if I can learn a thinf or two.
this is your schtick and it is nothing new.

I keep telling you and others have told you that what YOU need to do is aks yourself why people here view you as an right wing extremist even though YOU keep insisting that you are not.

Until you have that honest self examination, nothing that anyone here points out to you will make a tinkers damn bit of difference.

It can't be very easy to post around here when your as smart as someone like the Reverend. I'm seeing most of the extremism coming from the left. Someone just posted that Tea Party people are very extremist. And then the next post argued that they were whining about cutting spending and that made them Extreme, but reminded us we have a 15 trillion debt.

The poor Reverend has to try to waddle through this mess!
 
More like... The Tea Party is the radical, extremist part of the Rep party...

ricksfolly

And the left full of Union thugs, communists, marxists, socialists, muslim radicals, GW alarmists, 9/11 Truthers, would be called what? The sensible side of the democratic party?
How brainwashed does someone have to be to believe a group of people, who want the government to stop out of control spending, is extreme?
 
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