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The Tea Party Is.....

What is the Tea Party to America?

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ReverendHellh0und said:
yah especially when left wing partisans see racism in anything that they disagree with.
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Or, I suppose, partisans who see it nowhere, no matter how blatant, and who see any question as the race card. Those generalities work both ways you know. :coffeepap
 
CriticalThought said:
If you are referring to me, I just brought up the skin color argument because I found it funny how defensive tea partiers like Rev are when it is simply mentioned. I never said a thing about racism, but he was so bothered by the fact that he belonged to a group of mostly white people that even mentioning race set him off on a tirade. I have no problem with the tea party being a mostly white movement, and I mention it simply as an observation. I'm not sure why the tea pary movement is composed primarily of dissatisfied white people, and I'm not sure why nobody has bothered to find out. Even you seem to find it offensive to even ask such a question, which I find rather hilarious. When I see responses like the one above it screams "DEFENSIVE". Why are you bothered by belonging to a white movement?
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I think largely its a cultural thing. The country is becoming more diverse and changing away from WASP culture more specifically, which is generally going to mean white people will be upset since they are quite well represented in that demographic.
 
Boo Radley said:
Or, I suppose, partisans who see it nowhere, no matter how blatant, and who see any question as the race card. Those generalities work both ways you know. :coffeepap
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except in this case. as one who has been called a racist by many on the left for disagreeing with Obama or for being part of the tea party, I see a far cry difference than a left wing idiot suggesting that I am racist, than the strawman of stating that someone argued that racism doesn't exist anywhere.
 
CriticalThought said:
If you are referring to me, I just brought up the skin color argument because I found it funny how defensive tea partiers like Rev are when it is simply mentioned. I never said a thing about racism, but he was so bothered by the fact that he belonged to a group of mostly white people that even mentioning race set him off on a tirade. I have no problem with the tea party being a mostly white movement, and I mention it simply as an observation. I'm not sure why the tea pary movement is composed primarily of dissatisfied white people, and I'm not sure why nobody has bothered to find out. Even you seem to find it offensive to even ask such a question, which I find rather hilarious. When I see responses like the one above it screams "DEFENSIVE". Why are you bothered by belonging to a white movement?
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We don't get defensive because we are bothered by the tea party being composed of mostly white people. Hell, the entire country is composed of mostly white people. Are you bothered by living here?

We get defensive and annoyed because it doesn't matter and it's a stupid argument to make. Also, many people call tea partiers racist simply because it's a mostly white group. How moronic can you be to even think that?
 
megaprogman said:
I think largely its a cultural thing. The country is becoming more diverse and changing away from WASP culture more specifically, which is generally going to mean white people will be upset since they are quite well represented in that demographic.
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I for one love the diversity, the food man, the FOOD! :thumbs: damn me and my racist ways. :roll: :lamo
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
People aren't stupid. you mentioned it because you knew that associating the tea party with race is straight out of the left wing play book, if you didn't, what does that say about you?
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You are welcome to go back and find any post in this thread where I argued that the tea party is racist. You will find nothing. All I have done is mention a very objective and observable fact that the tea party is mostly a white movement. You are the person who has a problem with it. You are the one is primed to have a tirade if anyone even mentions race when it comes to the tea party. I have no problem with the tea party being a mostly white movement. I just find it funny that you do.

And you have to remember, I'm not a leftist, I'm a centrist libertarian, and so my thinking is very different than the box you are trying to put me in.
 
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CriticalThought said:
You are welcome to go back and find any post in this thread where I argued that the tea party is racist. You will find nothing. All I have done is mention a very objective and observable fact that the tea party is mostly a white movement. You are the person who has a problem with it. You are the one is primed to have a tirade if anyone even mentions race when it comes to the tea party. I have no problem with the tea party being a mostly white movement. I just find it funny that you do.
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so you are pleading ignorance.... Well, if you continue, its now wilful ignorance, you run with that.. :roll:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
I for one love the diversity, the food man, the FOOD! :thumbs: damn me and my racist ways. :roll: :lamo
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I agree with you, the varieties of food, even in my small town has exploded in the last five years.
 
megaprogman said:
I think largely its a cultural thing. The country is becoming more diverse and changing away from WASP culture more specifically, which is generally going to mean white people will be upset since they are quite well represented in that demographic.
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*eyeroll*

I don't think of myself being in the "white people" category for representation. The "white people" in Congress don't just represent me, but ALL AMERICANS no matter what color they are. This race crap has to stop.
 
CriticalThought said:
You are welcome to go back and find any post in this thread where I argued that the tea party is racist. You will find nothing. All I have done is mention a very objective and observable fact that the tea party is mostly a white movement. You are the person who has a problem with it. You are the one is primed to have a tirade if anyone even mentions race when it comes to the tea party. I have no problem with the tea party being a mostly white movement. I just find it funny that you do.

And you have to remember, I'm not a leftist, I'm a centrist libertarian, and so my thinking is very different than the box you are trying to put me in.
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Again, you're failing to understand why tea partiers get defensive about that. Are you just choosing not to understand so that you can continue your prejudices against them?
 
I don't know enough about the Tea Party, or the people who make up their ranks, to make any type of judgment. Therefore I will abstain from voting.
 
Mellie said:
*eyeroll*

I don't think of myself being in the "white people" category for representation. The "white people" in Congress don't just represent me, but ALL AMERICANS no matter what color they are. This race crap has to stop.
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Which was why I was pointing to a demographic and not a race. The demographic just happens to have enough white people in it that the name for the race is in the popular name for it.
 
Mellie said:
Also interesting to me is that the same people who look at a tea party and say "Where are the black people????" as evidence of "racism" never, ever, ever say that when talking about, say, a rap concert or church that is made up of entirely black people. Why not say "Where are all the white people????" as evidence of "racism"? Hmmmm..... It's only "racist" if it's all white people, eh? Hypocrites.

Do you all see how moronic this argument is? Who CARES what color skin people have? We are all HUMANS no matter what skin color we have. A group of people of all different skin colors isn't "better" than a group of all one skin color. Skin color should be NO FACTOR in your opinions about the "goodness" of the group. Listen to what they SAY and DO, not what they look like. Gah!
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Don't you know Mellie that only the Evil White People can be Racist.
 
Mellie said:
We get defensive and annoyed because it doesn't matter and it's a stupid argument to make.
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If it didn't matter then you would ignore it. But the fact it does bother you. That is evident by how you and Rev react to anyone even mentioning the observable and objective fact that the tea party is composed primarily of white people. I question why the movement is so, and that is an infuriating comment to you, but it is a legitimate question and it does not presuppose any racism, only asks why the demographics of the tea party are what they are.
 
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Mellie said:
Again, you're failing to understand why tea partiers get defensive about that. Are you just choosing not to understand so that you can continue your prejudices against them?
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It's wilful ignorance, next he'll state you are not a libertarian.... it's not highbrow debate here.
 
liblady said:
does it now?
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Yes it does. It's the same way with PETA cheapening the Holocuast by comparing what happen to Jewish people to a cow in a slaughter house.
 
Mellie said:
We don't get defensive because we are bothered by the tea party being composed of mostly white people. Hell, the entire country is composed of mostly white people. Are you bothered by living here?

We get defensive and annoyed because it doesn't matter and it's a stupid argument to make. Also, many people call tea partiers racist simply because it's a mostly white group. How moronic can you be to even think that?
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no, people haven't called tea partiers racist because of the racial makeup of the group. people have called them racist because of the actions of some members of the tea party. surely you won't deny that some tea partiers are racist?
 
megaprogman said:
I think largely its a cultural thing. The country is becoming more diverse and changing away from WASP culture more specifically, which is generally going to mean white people will be upset since they are quite well represented in that demographic.
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This sounds like a reasonable suggestion. It doesn't have anything to do with racism, simply a cultural shift. And yet tea partiers won't respond with an alternative suggestion they simply roll their eyes or get uber defensive.
 
liblady said:
no, people haven't called tea partiers racist because of the racial makeup of the group. people have called them racist because of the actions of some members of the tea party. surely you won't deny that some tea partiers are racist?
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It's not like they are racist democrats....
 
CriticalThought said:
If it didn't matter then you would ignore it. But the fact it does bother you. That is evident by how you and Rev react to anyone even mentioning the observable and objective fact that the tea party is composed primarily of white people. I question why the movement is so, and that is an infuriating comment to you, but it is a legitimate question and it does not presuppose any racism, only asks why the demographics of the tea party are what they are.
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Your questioning of it implies that there's something wrong with a group being mostly one race. Why bring it up if it doesn't matter to you?
 
CriticalThought said:
This sounds like a reasonable suggestion. It doesn't have anything to do with racism, simply a cultural shift. And yet tea partiers won't respond with an alternative suggestion they simply roll their eyes or get uber defensive.
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To Mellie's defense, she is probably so used to people crying racist that she just reacts now. I probably would too if I were in her shoes.

But yeah, I think its a combination of cultural shift and seniors not wanting their ox to be gored.
 
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Of course nobody cares about skin color. They care about different cultures. Well I guess white people do try a lot to become darker color.
 
liblady said:
no, people haven't called tea partiers racist because of the racial makeup of the group. people have called them racist because of the actions of some members of the tea party. surely you won't deny that some tea partiers are racist?
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Of course there are racist tea partiers, just like there are racist Communists, racist liberals, racist teachers, racist doctors, racist lawyers, racist waitresses, racist pro-choicers, racist pro-lifers, racist women, racist men..............................

The problem is people who label millions of people "racist" simply because of what a handful of people have said. You agree, I assume. To not agree would be really, really stupid and you're not stupid.
 
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