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The Tea Party Is.....

What is the Tea Party to America?


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What does it matter if it's mostly white people?



It doesn't. but this is how the left and its sycophants operate. Infer, accuse, and suggest that the tea party is angry white folks full of racism to libel the movement as something other than what it is. so much so, that folks like you (as you posted) get a completley skewed picture of who we really are.
 
That is a slice of the pie. But lets look at some other slices that do not like to display in the deli case.

They also don't like the efforts of government on behalf of minorities over the past several decades. Too much.... what is their euphemism again?.... oh yes.... Big Government. Big Government needs to stay out of peoples lives. Which for some is another convenient euphemism for states rights and all that went with that in the Fifties and Sixties.

Sure digsbe, I give the the concern about economics.... but that is only the part of the meal they are promoting to get the nation to buy the more unattractive dishes on their menu.



WTF are you talking about, can you back up any of this nosnense? :lamo
 
That is a slice of the pie. But lets look at some other slices that do not like to display in the deli case.

They also don't like the efforts of government on behalf of minorities over the past several decades. Too much.... what is their euphemism again?.... oh yes.... Big Government. Big Government needs to stay out of peoples lives. Which for some is another convenient euphemism for states rights and all that went with that in the Fifties and Sixties.

Sure digsbe, I give the the concern about economics.... but that is only the part of the meal they are promoting to get the nation to buy the more unattractive dishes on their menu.

What efforts on behalf of minorities?

The Tea Party stands for fiscal responsibility and government accountability. It isn't some uber sekret conspiracy set out to convert white people into being racists by baiting with the issue of economics. Do you have proof for your accusations?
 
Why is it you try to pick fights with me all the time? What are you so insecure about?

What makes you think I am picking a fight with you because I am posting about the tea party and agree with one of your assessments of it? Most people would see that as a validation of their opinion. You opt to see it as throwing down some gauntlet.

This is the second time in a few days now that I agree with you and you see fit to argue about me agreeing with you.

What are you so insecure about that you attack me for agreeing with you?

And why are you picking me out and attacking me personally instead of discussing the topic?
 
So does Obama, except for abortion.


Also I believe abortion is not just a social conservative standpoint, but the ultimate libertarian one as life is the ultimate thing that needs protecting.

Have you found a way to protect life without growing government and giving the government authority over a doctor when helping a women decide if abortion is safer for her in terms of protecting her own health and life?
 
Bachmann used to work on Jimmy Carter's champaign, so she hasn't always voted republican but she is a TP/Republican today...

btw... what do you have against somebody pointing out the lack of minorities in the movement? there are a lack of minorities... I am not accusing you of being racist by pointing that out.



Well more than one poster has called me a racist in the past simply for supporting the ideals of the tea party. It's a blatant and rephrenesible lie, that starts out as "innocently" as Criticaltho0ughts post #3.
 
What efforts on behalf of minorities?

The Tea Party stands for fiscal responsibility and government accountability. It isn't some uber sekret conspiracy set out to convert white people into being racists by baiting with the issue of economics. Do you have proof for your accusations?

I believe they were called civil rights laws and programs.
 
Have you found a way to protect life without growing government and giving the government authority over a doctor when helping a women decide if abortion is safer for her in terms of protecting her own health and life?




no. Then again the tea party, nor libertarianism is a death pact.


I think we can spend the money on educating folks on the value of life, while reducing spending on everything from corporate welfare, to DOD spending. :shrug:
 
Have you found a way to protect life without growing government and giving the government authority over a doctor when helping a women decide if abortion is safer for her in terms of protecting her own health and life?

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Libertarians promote individual liberty and seek to minimize the role of the state. The majority of libertarians consider a right to abortion as part of their general support for individual rights, especially in regard to what they consider to be a woman's right to control her body


^ Doug Bandow, The politics of envy: statism as theology, p. 280, Transaction Publishers, 1994 ISBN 1560001712, 9781560001713 Quote: "the majority of libertarians are pro-choice"...

^ Marc Jason Gilbert, The Vietnam War on campus: other voices, more distant drums, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2001, p 35 ISBN 0275969096, 9780275969097 Quote: "On the whole, however, centrist and conservative libertarians usually espoused expected libertarian views on such issues as abortion, where the individual’s right to be free from coercion by others (either individuals or the state) too precedent over questions of morality or religion."

^ George F. Johnston, Abortion from the religious and moral perspective: an annotated bibliography, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2003 page 160, ISBN 0313314020, 9780313314025 Quote:"Most Libertarians, on the grounds that a woman has the right to control her own body, support legalized abortion."

^ John Micklethwait, Adrian Wooldridge, The Right Nation: Conservative Power in America, Penguin, 2004, p. 252 ISBN 1594200203, 9781594200205 Quote: “Libertarians support abortion as part of their general support for individual rights.

^ Charles W. Dunn, J. David Woodard, American conservatism from Burke to Bush: an introduction, Madison Books, 1991, p 41, ISBN 0819180696, 9780819180698 Quote: "...libertarians would say that the government should not regulate abortion since that is a personal matter."

^ Dr. Mary Ruwart, Ask Dr. Ruwart, Advocates for Self Government Quote: "The predominant 'pro-choice' viewpoint, as expressed in the current version of the Libertarian Party platform, is backed by principled arguments as well. Libertarians believe that no one should be enslaved to support another, including a pregnant woman 'enslaved' to carry a fetus she does not want. A woman's body is her property, to do with as she wishes."
 
It doesn't. but this is how the left and its sycophants operate. Infer, accuse, and suggest that the tea party is angry white folks full of racism to libel the movement as something other than what it is. so much so, that folks like you (as you posted) get a completley skewed picture of who we really are.

I don't agree with the Tea Party's fundamental beliefs but it's amusing that some people have to point out the racial make up of the group, as if that makes a big difference.
 
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^ Doug Bandow, The politics of envy: statism as theology, p. 280, Transaction Publishers, 1994 ISBN 1560001712, 9781560001713 Quote: "the majority of libertarians are pro-choice"...

^ Marc Jason Gilbert, The Vietnam War on campus: other voices, more distant drums, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2001, p 35 ISBN 0275969096, 9780275969097 Quote: "On the whole, however, centrist and conservative libertarians usually espoused expected libertarian views on such issues as abortion, where the individual’s right to be free from coercion by others (either individuals or the state) too precedent over questions of morality or religion."

^ George F. Johnston, Abortion from the religious and moral perspective: an annotated bibliography, Greenwood Publishing Group, 2003 page 160, ISBN 0313314020, 9780313314025 Quote:"Most Libertarians, on the grounds that a woman has the right to control her own body, support legalized abortion."

^ John Micklethwait, Adrian Wooldridge, The Right Nation: Conservative Power in America, Penguin, 2004, p. 252 ISBN 1594200203, 9781594200205 Quote: “Libertarians support abortion as part of their general support for individual rights.

^ Charles W. Dunn, J. David Woodard, American conservatism from Burke to Bush: an introduction, Madison Books, 1991, p 41, ISBN 0819180696, 9780819180698 Quote: "...libertarians would say that the government should not regulate abortion since that is a personal matter."

^ Dr. Mary Ruwart, Ask Dr. Ruwart, Advocates for Self Government Quote: "The predominant 'pro-choice' viewpoint, as expressed in the current version of the Libertarian Party platform, is backed by principled arguments as well. Libertarians believe that no one should be enslaved to support another, including a pregnant woman 'enslaved' to carry a fetus she does not want. A woman's body is her property, to do with as she wishes."




do you fully support the democrat platform? I disagree and you note they say "majority".... I am in the minority, but I am more than happy to debate my fellow libertarians to death on the issue.
 
Well easy, it shows that your point is irrellevant as democrats and tea party detractors voted for a candidate who was against the same things you just mentioned. It shows this is an economic movement and not a racial or social one/.

Except that it is exceptional for a liberal to be against those issues, but rare for a tea party member to not be against them, and tea party backed candidates almost exclusively are against them.

By the way, on another note: those suggesting racism are being totally unfair. Nothing the tea party does or backs is racist in any way. The tea party is no more racist for not having many minorities than the democratic party is for attracting those minorities.
 
I don't agree with the Tea Party's fundamental beliefs but it's amusing that some people have to point out the racial make up of the group, as if that makes a big difference.

I'm only pointing it out because of how funny their reaction is to it. They seriously have a problem with belonging to a mostly white group and I'm not sure why.
 
Except that it is exceptional for a liberal to be against those issues, but rare for a tea party member to not be against them, and tea party backed candidates almost exclusively are against them.


But are you all against reigning in the debt?



By the way, on another note: those suggesting racism are being totally unfair. Nothing the tea party does or backs is racist in any way. The tea party is no more racist for not having many minorities than the democratic party is for attracting those minorities.



It's just trolling. I'm used to it. I appreciate you pointing out and like Shewolf showing that this whole racism angle is the foolish execption, not the norm. :thumbs:
 
Well if thats not another bigoted comment. :roll:

I'm still waiting for an answer. Why does it matter that the Tea Party is mostly dissatisfied white people? Why does it matter that it is a movement of white people?
 
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