View Poll Results: What is the Tea Party to America?

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    42 48.84%
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    6 6.98%
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    2 2.33%
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    24 27.91%
  • Flat out Disgusting!

    2 2.33%
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    5 5.81%
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    5 5.81%
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Thread: The Tea Party Is.....

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What's the difference? How many Tea Partiers ran in a party other than Republican?
    So in other words your comment is as baseless and useless as your reply. Noted.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Well done, but can you show me one policy that the tea party as a whole supports that attacks another individuals personal freedoms, of any race, colour, or creed?
    This is the same argument that black people are racist against white candidate's because 97% of them voted for Obama. Discuss policies and thier effects and leave the ignorant finger pointing out of the argument. It isn't healthy for either side.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Where is "here?" Cyberspace is rather vast.
    America. The Tea Party is not a Political Party....it's a movement...or a body. It is fundamentally fiscally conservative and supports fiscally conservative Republicans. Until it formalizes in about 100 years.....that's the way it will remain.

    Are you familiar with the term Blue Dog? How many Blue Dogs are there in congress....how many of the Blue Dog Party are there? How many Libertarian congressmen are there?
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What's the difference? How many Tea Partiers ran in a party other than Republican?
    Off hand I know the tea party endorsed around 8 or 10 democrats in federal elections in 2010.

    However given their goal was to ELECT people who were fiscal CONSERVATIVES, it's understandable that most tea party candidates would run on the republican ticket since they are the only federally viable conservative leaning party. They could go libertarian, but note I said electable. They could go democratic, but note I said fiscally conservative.

    The tea party movement in and of itself is not a national political party but rather a political movement, more akin to the anti-war movement than the republicans/democrats

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kulterkampf View Post

    Well done, but can you show me one policy that the tea party as a whole supports that attacks another individuals personal freedoms, of any race, colour, or creed?
    This is the same argument that black people are racist against white candidate's because 97% of them voted for Obama. Discuss policies and thier effects and leave the ignorant finger pointing out of the argument. It isn't healthy for either side.
    Policies are not the only way of determining racism. No party could outwardly promote racist policies in this day and age, they'd be swallowed whole if they tried. But just look at the voting record of Republican candidates, who are elected primarily by Conservatives, which is primarily who comprises the Tea Party. In the last 100 years, there have been a grand total of 6 black Republicans. Until three months ago, there were none, and even now, there are only two.

    Actions speak for them.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post

    America. The Tea Party is not a Political Party....it's a movement...or a body. It is fundamentally fiscally conservative and supports fiscally conservative Republicans. Until it formalizes in about 100 years.....that's the way it will remain.

    Are you familiar with the term Blue Dog? How many Blue Dogs are there in congress....how many of the Blue Dog Party are there? How many Libertarian congressmen are there?
    That's not entirely true.
    The "Tea Party" Is Now Official in Florida

    An Orlando lawyer named Frederic O'Neal has registered the Tea Party with the office of the Florida Secretary of State, Politico reports, and intends to run candidates against both Republicans and Democrats in state and national races.

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    The Tea Party has been registered with the state since August and is one of 32 minor political parties certified in Florida, Politico reported.
    And to answer your question, I'm in America. And to answer your other question, yes, I've hear of blue dogs, just don't recall seeing them registered anywhere as a political party.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Well who's supposed to elect them? Democrats?
    West got elected and he is black, and a republican. Maybe (I know this is crazy) they don't vote for them because of there liberal views.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    I see people were too busy discussing how many of this or that race were or are in the "Tea Party" (among other truly important and thought-provoking subjects) to respond to my previous post (like, 225 posts ago? In only 2 days?) that, personally, I thought was a reasonable addition to the discussion.



    So, I’ll quote myself…

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    I am not going to read 500+ posts.

    So, my take on the Tea Party movement.

    I think it was at one point, may still be, and could in the future be a positive influence (depending on how you define positive, of course) on the USA.

    However, the individuals and various groups containing those individuals that make up the "Tea Party Movement" must be careful to avoid being co-opted by people who do not agree with them, or who agree with them in part but also have positions they would disagree with (such as some social aspects)...

    IF, and I repeat IF, the "Tea Party" is focused mainly on getting spending levels reduced, then I wholly support that aspect, provided they don't take it too far.

    Of course, my definition of “too far” is probably far different that some.

    The basic issue I see preventing spending cuts is that people don’t want to give up the safety nets and support structure that cost the government so much, even in part.

    Personally, I think some peripheral programs should be cut, along with reduced funding and streamlining for the more central ones
    I also think that in many cases some programs were unneeded when they were started…the problem being that now people have come to expect and/or depend on such programs.

    This, as I understand it, is the major battle/debate/issue that faces the current congress, if they are serious about spending cuts.
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    In my perfect world, we would never have any deficit spending…Instead, funds would be cut from less important areas if a need in one area arose.
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    A bit off topic there, perhaps.

    Assuming the Tea party doesn't go too far into the social issues field, but rather sticks with the spending cuts area, I will have little issue with them, and in general will consider them a positive force.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    How do you make love to a papaya?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

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