View Poll Results: What is the Tea Party to America?

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  • Good!

    42 48.84%
  • Good but Looney

    6 6.98%
  • Neutral.... no harm and no good

    2 2.33%
  • Negative and Looney

    24 27.91%
  • Flat out Disgusting!

    2 2.33%
  • People that are Very secure financially that dont understand reality!

    5 5.81%
  • I make love to the Papaya!

    5 5.81%
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Thread: The Tea Party Is.....

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post

    Is that a problem? Does this make Republicans or Conservatives racist? Can you look past the fact that 90% of African Americans are Democrats and that maybe with the 10% who isn't only very few would run for public office as Republicans?
    While it's true that far more run as Democrats than Republicans, when they do run as Republicans, they almost never get elected. Of the nearly 26,000 Congressional seats up for election since 1900, there have been only 6 blacks elected as Republicans. Up until our most recent election, that number was only 4 blacks elected as Republicans since 1900. Allen West, one of only 2 black Republican Congressmen, lost in 2008.

    Of the 42 blacks in Congress now, 40 are Democrat and 2 are Republican. Even using your measuring stick of 90% of blacks are Democrat, less than 5% are Republican. And even that is only since this past election. Going into that election, there were no black Republicans in Congress at all. None. 0%.

    Blacks don't get elected as Republicans. They haven't for well over 100 years now.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    farmers you mean? lol!
    Farmers, yeah. There are people that live outside the cities that aren't farmers though. In fact, about half the population of the US is like that.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Two of the best political posts (In a row even) that I have seen on these forums for a while now!


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    Yeah, thoughtful commentary that doesn't just set off my bs alarms. I like (even if I'm not sure I agree)
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't know what grasp of history you have, but the Tea Party didn't form until after Obama was elected and primarily as a response to his health care reform. I don't know why you guys keep trying to rewrite history and pretend that it began before Obama was elected.
    That's not even close to true. Perhaps you could say that they didn't formalize until after he was elected, but they aren't really a formal, centralized organization now. I think it's your grasp of history that's a little muddy.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post

    And......why does it matter how many blacks or whites or hispanics are voted into office? What should matter is their character, their policies and their plans for our country. You'd think, anyway.
    Suuure .... it's just coincidence that of the nearly 26,000 election races going back to 1900, only 5 black Republicans had more character and better policies than their white opponents.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Suuure .... it's just coincidence that of the nearly 26,000 election races going back to 1900, only 5 black Republicans had more character and better policies than their white opponents.
    What districts were they in? Their political persuasion? I don't doubt race has at least something to due with it going that far back, however, these seemed to be additional criteria not mentioned, or at least that I thought were not mentioned.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I asked, and I repeat, "why is the tea party composed mostly of white people?"

    That is the question that you and mellie refuse to answer.
    I think they both did, but I will too. Because by and large, white people are more fiscally conservative (in the US) then minorities as a result of entitlement programs. Entitlement programs that Tea Partiers want eliminated.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    While it's true that far more run as Democrats than Republicans, when they do run as Republicans, they almost never get elected. Of the nearly 26,000 Congressional seats up for election since 1900, there have been only 6 blacks elected as Republicans. Up until our most recent election, that number was only 4 blacks elected as Republicans since 1900. Allen West, one of only 2 black Republican Congressmen, lost in 2008.

    Of the 42 blacks in Congress now, 40 are Democrat and 2 are Republican. Even using your measuring stick of 90% of blacks are Democrat, less than 5% are Republican. And even that is only since this past election. Going into that election, there were no black Republicans in Congress at all. None. 0%.

    Blacks don't get elected as Republicans. They haven't for well over 100 years now.
    42 blacks in Congress? How racist of the Democrat party to only have 40. You see 12.85% of America is black. There are 100 senators and 435 members of the House of Representatives. That's 535 members of Congress total. To have it proportional to the black population, there should be roughly 68 black members of Congress. 90% of blacks are Democrat, yet the Democrat party only has only 40 black members in Congress. How racist! Why don't they have 68 members or more?

    Black republicans lose? Does this prove racism? Maybe the Democrats are racist for not voting for a black candidate. Is it because Republicans vote for the white Democrat over the black Republican? Let's do some more math, if only 5% of blacks are Republicans, and only 2 members of Congress are black among the 42, then blacks would be equally Represented in Congress along with the black Democrats when compared to the total number of blacks in Congress and calculating using their respective percentages of 90% Democrat and 5% Republican. 5% of 42 is 2.1. There are 2 black Republicans.

    To conclude, Democrats must be racist because only 40 of their Congressman are black. When compared to the US black population it should be around 68 if they want to keep things proportional. Consequently, if 42 black Congressmen is a fair number, and 2 of them are Republicans, then this would be fair as 5% of blacks are Republicans and the 2 black Republicans represent 5% of the total amount of blacks in Congress.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    There's a test from Political Compass...

    Political Compass - Analysis

    Anybody that has social conservative values is going to be more in the upper righthand box than on the libertarian line.
    I always end up lower right.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    So...

    Dissatisfied white people equal Tea Party
    Dissatisfied blacks equal Democratic Party

    Seems we're all dissatisfied here?


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    Yeah, I think that's the gist.

    I often come off as liberal because of my positions, but I came to many of them from a libertarian perspective.

    I'm almost perfectly socially liberal because if I tell no one how to live their lives no one gets to tell me how to live mine, etc.

    I'm actually encouraged by the degree of actual discussion going on here lately, even with all the usual PR chaff thrown up to prevent it.

    When it comes right down to it, people are much more alike than they are different.

    Its politics and PR that hyper-emphasize what differences there are. To keep us in the little mental boxes they like to keep us in.
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