View Poll Results: What is the Tea Party to America?

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    42 48.84%
  • Good but Looney

    6 6.98%
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    2 2.33%
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    24 27.91%
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    2 2.33%
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    5 5.81%
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    5 5.81%
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post

    Sure...that was their motivation...George Bush was proposing bailing out the banks and a group of people banded together and said THIS would be a great time to form a religous anti-government movement...
    The Tea Party's motivation was to revitalize the Republican party which appeared DOA by 2008. After losing the House and Senate in 2006 and the White House in 2008; receiving the lion's share of the blame for the financial meltdown, and having George Bush as the head of the party for 8 years, it appeared as though Democrats would be in charge for the foreseeable future. Conservatives and Republicans did a masterful job of creating a grass-roots movement to run against Democrats as non-Republican Republicans. Between Republicans reinventing themselves and Democrats failing to manage the economy, Republicans have breathed new life into a flailing party.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Republicans and Conservatives (who typically vote Republican) have elected only 5 blacks to Congress since Congress has had 535 members; 2 of whom have served just 3 months. I'm not saying the Tea Party is racist, though I believe some members are just as some members of most groups are racist, but face it -- Blacks, with the exception of 5 out of thousands, don't get elected as Republicans.
    There's not a whole heck of a lot of blacks running as republicans perhaps?


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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    We don't get defensive because we are bothered by the tea party being composed of mostly white people. Hell, the entire country is composed of mostly white people. Are you bothered by living here?

    We get defensive and annoyed because it doesn't matter and it's a stupid argument to make. Also, many people call tea partiers racist simply because it's a mostly white group. How moronic can you be to even think that?
    Actually, not to jape (as I am prone to do) the fact that the Tea Party has failed to attract many minority members does matter to some extent.

    Why does its message fail to resonate with minority citizens?

    Is it the result of a failure of conservative messaging or a success of liberal messaging or something else entirely?
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    What? There are quite a few members of the Tea Party that are religious, but it's not a religious movement. Do you think Tea Partiers are trying to create a theocracy or something?
    Laughable, I know, but let's be kind to CT, perhaps he's had a hard day? It's like saying that NASCAR is a religious movement..


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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I agree, what I think would be truly racist is having someone voted into office because of their race or to have them run with a party label because of race as well.
    Can't think of anyone off the top of my mind.. [wink]


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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think this is a good assessment and accounts for a lot of the differences that many people see in tea parties. Many people here will bring in their individual experiences and hold that as a better information source than the marketing or what others tell them. I know it is certainly true for me. The tea party in my area is basically a southern holiness church revival (with all of the same political talk that goes on in those types of churches) more than anything else, for example. However, that mixed message, is at the same time relevant and irrelevant, depending on what aspect of this movement we focus on in whatever discussion.
    Yes. I wouldn't contend that individual local tea parties may have some that are as focus on religious conservatism as the other portions. When you get down to that level the chance for disparity and changes are possible. However, I don't think you can talk about individual local tea parties and suggest that it somehow is relevant greatly on the national scale...let alone to the point of claiming its a "religious organization". I think what the national over arching group is about AND the things that are nearly universally common amongst the local groups is far more relevant and the far better representation of what "The tea party" is when speaking of a broad description. I don't see how heavily discussing social conservatism because some of the local groups may be more apt for it is any more relevant than talking about libertarinism because some of the local groups may do that or talking about some whacky view that some random local DNC office holds when discussing the Democratic Party on a national level.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post

    So the Tea Party members DIDNT stand opposed to the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008? They werent regularly voicing opposition to GWB and his announced intent to sign the bill? Yeah.....history isnt what you WANT it to be, baby.
    Members, yes -- but they were not in the Tea Party as there was no Tea Party at that time.

    History of the Tea Party Movement

    Since its inception in February 2009, the Tea Party movement—with the help of viral videos and social networking sites, such as Facebook and Twitter—almost instantly found a large and loyal following that has gained traction and supporters.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    This is ridiculous.

    Tea Party Closely Linked to Religious Right, Poll Finds - The Note

    Christian conservatives make up only 22% of America but comprise half of the tea party movement. As a group the tea party is just as much a religious movement as it is an economic one.
    It's like what Tocqueville and other political scientists have said about political organizations. They are focused on one issue to maintain popular membership, but are not entirely willing to move into other subjects for fear of alienating others and losing much needed political influence. There can be a disproportionate amount of people with other sympathies, but the focus is on a particular issue. What I say is not ridiculous, just more subtle.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Actually, not to jape (as I am prone to do) the fact that the Tea Party has failed to attract many minority members does matter to some extent.

    Why does its message fail to resonate with minority citizens?

    Is it the result of a failure of conservative messaging or a success of liberal messaging or something else entirely?
    The tea party's message doesn't attract people who believe in big government,more spending and higher taxes no matter what skin color they are.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Wow Rev! A big 'ol thank you for that first video.
    One of the best I've seen.
    I'll add this. How did Alan West manage to get elected if the Tea Party is racist?
    They also would love for him to run in 2012.
    And more proof that the TP doesn't care about the color of skin.

    Herman Cain is my pick in 2012 and if the Tea Party is so racist, how is he doing so well in straw polls?
    Herman Cain presidential campaign, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Cain won the poll with 22%. Runners up were Tim Pawlenty (16%), Ron Paul (15%) and Sarah Palin (10%). Ron Paul won the Summit's online poll.
    Pawlenty Wins PLC Straw Poll; Santorum Finishes 9th | PoliticsPA
    Pa straw poll
    Pawlenty 1st
    Cain 2nd
    Bachmann 3rd

    It's time the left gave up their obsession with race as far as the tea party goes. They are starting to look like idiots and they aren't fooling the American people any longer with the race baiting.
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