View Poll Results: What is the Tea Party to America?

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    42 48.84%
  • Good but Looney

    6 6.98%
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    2 2.33%
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    24 27.91%
  • Flat out Disgusting!

    2 2.33%
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    5 5.81%
  • I make love to the Papaya!

    5 5.81%
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Thread: The Tea Party Is.....

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think its fair to say in an org where it is grass roots and without an enforced definition or heirarchy to create a definition, that whatever its members are, it is. In your example a person started the football club and is responsible for it and to it. This is not the case with the tea party. At least, this is how I look at it.
    Its hard to really nail it down, and I'll give you that. Going back to my "don't give a crap what people want to imply" attitude, I'll make the comparison that I'm sure some of the more hyper partisan liberals will love to grab onto and take far more literally.

    Its set up similar to a terrorist network.

    In general the large majority of Tea Partiers are built upon the notion of the "Contract From America" and its the closest to a universally held set of beliefs amongst all the various groups from a national to local level. There may be additions or tweaks here or there, but by and large those 10 things are universally held.

    From there, you have over arching national groups, though even those aren't necessarily directly connected and consistent. They are less of direct figure heads as they are the strands that help connect the various local organizations. At this level the general core message remains relatively consistent across the board, with little variation and addition between the different groups.

    As you move down from there into the smaller and more local tea parties you begin to see slightly more personal flavor on them. Tea Parties in Rhode Island may take a far more Libertarian appearance while ones in Arizona may look much more like a stereotypical Paleoconservative entity. Issues that are a bit more important to those local groups may begin to crop into their views or whats important to them based on the leadership or the membership at that lowest level. However, this individualizing tends to be something that doesn't translate up the chain or between various cells.

    So individual localized Tea Parties act relatively independent, almost as unique entities, however are bound together by the commonlaities that they all share, generally through the connection to one or more of the national organizations, which are based off of the ideals of the Contract from America.

    So it possible for a variety of localized Tea Parties to have a more social bend to them? Sure. There's also the possiblity for some to have absolutely zero social bend. Or a more miltaristic bend to them. Or hell a liberal social bend. But when talking about the organization as a whole, as the loose but connected entity that exists across the nation, one would need to look at what the binding message, purpose, and principles are and those are firmly and primarily rooted in Fiscal and Governmental conservative principles and issues.

    To taking "football club" a step further. I really liked setting it up, and I manage to make it a nation wide thing with clubs springing up all over, mostly in cities with a football team, that is loosely tied together at a national level. At the national level we help facilitate clubs getting together for road teams to watch the game and argue with the home team or a forum where members can interact with each other. And other random national type things.

    Now locally, clubs may differ a bit. The Football Club in Detroit may be less enthusiastic and small because, well, the Lions. The Football Club in Washington may have some members interested in checking out other sports but it isn't a big deal in the club because they live, eat, and breath Redskins. Meanwhile the Football Club in Atlanta may find it very important to do events where people can see Braves games as well because Baseball is important to their members even if its not directly important to the club. On the flip side, the Tennesse Football Club may have absolutely no care what so ever about Baseball because they don't have a team so their members are really not that interested in it.

    So on the local level, the amount of additional interest or care shown to other sports may vary. But when you look at it as a whole, and from a macro level, the Football Club is still a club about Football, Football Fans, and watching Football. On a national level, it has no care nor thought about Baseball. It has no problems with its members liking baseball, or even some liking baseball just as much as football, but the Clubs focus as a whole is completely removed from any thoughts of Baseball.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure...that was their motivation...George Bush was proposing bailing out the banks and a group of people banded together and said THIS would be a great time to form a religous anti-government movement...
    I don't know what grasp of history you have, but the Tea Party didn't form until after Obama was elected and primarily as a response to his health care reform. I don't know why you guys keep trying to rewrite history and pretend that it began before Obama was elected.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I really believe you believe that is the case, but the reality is that it is a religous movement. That will become more apparant in the years to come.
    And I really believe you believe that is the case, but the reality is that its not a religious movement.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And I really believe you believe that is the case, but the reality is that its not a religious movement.
    Yeah, I saw the candidates they nominated in the last midterm election. I'm pretty sure they are.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And BTW...what is this tendency to create so much heat about the 'Tea Party'? Could it be that the 'Tea Party' threatens what many want most...MORE government spending...more free cheese?
    Why you could be one of them, or you... or YOU... OR EVEN

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why are you reproducing my posts with my name and then screaming about marxists?


    You insist on lying and incorrectly callin me an extreme right winger. So why the hell not.


    Btw. Got a brand new contract, worth a hell of a lot of money... Best part I replace 30 union guys with my shop. Great day.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I really don't know why any liberal would agree with the tea party. Blue dog dems, but not liberals or even regular dems.
    Government is not the answer, but Liberals think it is.
    If liberals start identifying with the TP, either they are changing their views and no longer liberal, or something has seriously gone wrong with the TP.
    Cliches are not the answer, but conservative think they are.

    By the way Barb, I think, along with many many liberals, that controlling spending is important as is reducing/eliminating the deficit. Are you going to tell me I am no longer a liberal, or that this is not the main issue of the Tea Party?
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yeah, I saw the candidates they nominated in the last midterm election. I'm pretty sure they are.
    Please indicate which candidates in those elections from a party that was likely to actually have a shot at winning the seat would've been a better choice for them to endorse based on their views?

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Is explaining why I disagree with Tea Partiers denigrating them? Would that not mean that your explaining why you disagree with liberal positions means you are denigrating them?
    i mean the voting, redress.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't know what grasp of history you have, but the Tea Party didn't form until after Obama was elected and primarily as a response to his health care reform. I don't know why you guys keep trying to rewrite history and pretend that it began before Obama was elected.
    So the Tea Party members DIDNT stand opposed to the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008? They werent regularly voicing opposition to GWB and his announced intent to sign the bill? Yeah.....history isnt what you WANT it to be, baby.

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