View Poll Results: What is the Tea Party to America?

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    42 48.84%
  • Good but Looney

    6 6.98%
  • Neutral.... no harm and no good

    2 2.33%
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    24 27.91%
  • Flat out Disgusting!

    2 2.33%
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    5 5.81%
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    5 5.81%
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I was born and raised in the inner city of a Major city, I wasnt a spoonfed white kid...and my major city is in shambles now compared to even 20 yrs ago...
    Most major cities have fallen apart as a result of the manufacturing industry shutting down and being outsourced. It has little to do with the economic policies of either party. I sincerely doubt it is any different where you were raised.

    You want to demonstrate how critical you are, show me some evidence that your city is any different.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    ROFL! Poverty rates equate to all of those things. The fact is you have no measure for how bad things were before for blacks, you only have your anecdotal experience of how bad they are now.

    Here is the site I grabbed it from.

    Poverty in America – black poverty issues | America's North Shore Journal
    The link to the US census that this is presumably tallied from is no longer working. But either way, what is the answer, CT? Should we throw even more money at minority poverty? Asians are an even higher minority, Jews but yet they don't seem to have the same levels of poverty? It isn't that they are a minority then, so it must be something else; culture perhaps? Indentured servitude? Fatherless babies? I don't know, but it seems endemic to a very select demographic.


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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    ...a group formed initially to combat excessive government spending. The Tea Party members were fiscally conservative republicans opposed to the bank bailouts proposed by President Bush. Once a democrat was elected president those same fiscal conservatives were then labelled racist haotemongers because they dared to oppose increased governmental spending, especially the health care legislation, which was voted on by members of congress that had never so much as read the bill and had no idea what it would cost. The Tea Party has been presistently villified because they think a federal government that has spent the US into a 14+ trillion dollar debt and annual deficits of over a trillion dollars is a 'bad' thing. The Tea Party members are majority fiscally conservative republicans, which makes some people ask WTF is wrong with fiscally responsible democrats and why they too dont take a strong stand against deficit federal spending.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    I think that it started out really good as a grass roots campaign for better government. Though I feel that it quickly got captured by the standard party politic and has been used by both sides at this point for propaganda.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I'm sticking to my much simpler explaination.

    Democrats embrace bottom up economic policies and Republicans favor trickle down economic policies and as black folk tend to be more impoverished, they favor Democratic policies out of self interest. The fact that the tea party is 89% white is indicative of the socioeconomic realities of the tea party's composition and it represents a segment of the population that is not nearly as impoverished and thus is more likely out of self interest to support trickle down policies.
    So...

    Dissatisfied white people equal Tea Party
    Dissatisfied blacks equal Democratic Party

    Seems we're all dissatisfied here?


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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The link to the US census that this is presumably tallied from is no longer working. But either way, what is the answer, CT? Should we throw even more money at minority poverty? Asians are an even higher minority, Jews but yet they don't seem to have the same levels of poverty? It isn't that they are a minority then, so it must be something else; culture perhaps? Indentured servitude? Fatherless babies? I don't know, but it seems endemic to a very select demographic.


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    I'm a libertarian. Why do you think that I support throwing money at anyone? I simply like facts. I know that is something that you could never understand. I think a debate needs to be based on facts for it to be worth anything, not semantics like you use in every debate, but on actual observable and measurable ideas. When people say something that is wrong, I'm going to correct them because if I don't then nobody learns. If an ideology cannot stay faithful to the truth, then it isn't a worthy ideology. I have nothing to fear to sticking to facts, unlike you who has to distort them every chance he gets.

    Now as I requested kindly in my PM to you, stop talking to me.
    Last edited by CriticalThought; 04-12-11 at 03:31 PM.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    What is most interesting is the continued pegging of the Tea Party to mean virtually every conservative impulse under the sun. It does contain those people, but as a group, the Tea Party is little interested in, say, religious conservatism. It's a fantastic ploy by Democrats to paint strong opposition as Tea Party.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What is most interesting is the continued pegging of the Tea Party to mean virtually every conservative impulse under the sun. It does contain those people, but as a group, the Tea Party is little interested in, say, religious conservatism. It's a fantastic ploy by Democrats to paint strong opposition as Tea Party.
    This is ridiculous.

    Tea Party Closely Linked to Religious Right, Poll Finds - The Note

    Christian conservatives make up only 22% of America but comprise half of the tea party movement. As a group the tea party is just as much a religious movement as it is an economic one.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Most major cities have fallen apart as a result of the manufacturing industry shutting down and being outsourced. It has little to do with the economic policies of either party. I sincerely doubt it is any different where you were raised.

    You want to demonstrate how critical you are, show me some evidence that your city is any different.
    You expect me to show evidence from 50 yrs ago...Ill pass on that...crime and taxs were the major contributors to the decaying and the present decay of cities...the jobs moved OUT...to cheaper pastures

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Possibly, but studies have shown that the tea party tends to be socially and fiscally conservative, not just fiscally. However, I believe during its early days it was only about fiscal issues, so you would be right too.

    The Tea Party, Religion and Social Issues - Pew Research Center
    Thank you. That poll showed what I suspected, and that I am more inline with the tea party than the Republican party.
    As far as social issues, it still is going to have to keep fiscal issues as it's number one priority.Unless I read it wrong TP's are more in favor of gay marriage than republicans, but are more pro-life.
    They also are more for a secure border than Republicans.
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