View Poll Results: What is the Tea Party to America?

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    42 48.84%
  • Good but Looney

    6 6.98%
  • Neutral.... no harm and no good

    2 2.33%
  • Negative and Looney

    24 27.91%
  • Flat out Disgusting!

    2 2.33%
  • People that are Very secure financially that dont understand reality!

    5 5.81%
  • I make love to the Papaya!

    5 5.81%
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Thread: The Tea Party Is.....

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wait what? So a movement isn't the members, but the politicians that those members had supported. So the Anti-War movement isn't a movement of voters but is made up of the politicians voted in in 2006 that were backed by them?
    All of those factors come in to play when describing a political group.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    A libertarian can believe what they want and vote how they want.
    So its not unreasonable nor against Libertarian belief to think that Abortion should be illegal or that abortion is murder or that a fetus has the full rights as any other child?

    True. If you don't like it then amend the Constitution and grant the unborn citizenship. If people believe they are truly alive, then how come they are not pushing as hard as they can to get them citizenship?
    Likely because in their minds keeping them from being murdered is slightly more important and thus the first battle they're waging.

    Well I think both abortion and killing an illegal immigrant could be called "murder", but they shouldn't be protected by the Constitution since they aren't citizens.
    Gotcha, so you think it shouldn't be illegal to muder illegal immigrants.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    WTF are you talking about, can you back up any of this nosnense?
    I testify to the validity of the above statement. Pretend I have a website where I say this, then post it.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Because you consistently want to violate other people's rights.



    That's an outright lie, dude. I've challenged you on this before, and as of yet you have never proved this lie. Just making the accusation, does not make it true.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    There is a large segment of the tea party that is socially conservative, they not only want certain economic conditions met, but social ones as well, so it is not irrellevant to some members of the tea party, and that should be noted. Also most of their candidates have been socially conservative, something that would need to change before I take that they don't care about social issues just economic ones, seriously.
    Yes, they as INDIVIDUALS want social ones as well. However, that doesn't mean the Tea Party wants social condiditons met.

    Yes, most of their candidates are socially conservative. That is because most of their candidates are conservative and conservatives tend to, more often than not, be conservative Socially as well as Fiscally, Governmentally and Militarily. That doesn't mean that the Tea Party supports those candidates for any reason other than their Fiscal stances.

    You can't get behind the Tea Party because most of the people strongly pushing the Tea Party's kind of fiscal conservatism also push some form of Social Conservatism. That's fine. That's a legitimate stance to take. That doesn't mean the Tea Party is a Socially Conservative entity.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So its not unreasonable nor against Libertarian belief to think that Abortion should be illegal or that abortion is murder or that a fetus has the full rights as any other child?
    You can believe that, but not before you believe that an individual's rights are supreme.

    Likely because in their minds keeping them from being murdered is slightly more important and thus the first battle they're waging.
    That would all be solved by just giving them citizenship.

    Gotcha, so you think it shouldn't be illegal to muder illegal immigrants.
    I think it is better to deport them.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    All of those factors come in to play when describing a political group.
    Sorry, I misread what you said. I thought you said the Politicians are the Tea Party rather than the members being the Tea Party. whoops

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    There is a large segment of the tea party that is socially conservative, they not only want certain economic conditions met, but social ones as well, so it is not irrellevant to some members of the tea party, and that should be noted. Also most of their candidates have been socially conservative, something that would need to change before I take that they don't care about social issues just economic ones, seriously.

    There was a large segment of the anti-war movement who were socialist and communist. yet that is not talked about. The majority of democrats don't support gay marriage, does that mean whenever we talk about any democrat we should bring up the fact that most democrats are anti-gay marriage?


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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes, they as INDIVIDUALS want social ones as well. However, that doesn't mean the Tea Party wants social condiditons met.

    Yes, most of their candidates are socially conservative. That is because most of their candidates are conservative and conservatives tend to, more often than not, be conservative Socially as well as Fiscally, Governmentally and Militarily. That doesn't mean that the Tea Party supports those candidates for any reason other than their Fiscal stances.

    You can't get behind the Tea Party because most of the people strongly pushing the Tea Party's kind of fiscal conservatism also push some form of Social Conservatism. That's fine. That's a legitimate stance to take. That doesn't mean the Tea Party is a Socially Conservative entity.
    I never said it was, I said it has some socially conservative members, and the majority of candidates they have backed have been social conservative.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes, they as INDIVIDUALS want social ones as well. However, that doesn't mean the Tea Party wants social condiditons met.

    Yes, most of their candidates are socially conservative. That is because most of their candidates are conservative and conservatives tend to, more often than not, be conservative Socially as well as Fiscally, Governmentally and Militarily. That doesn't mean that the Tea Party supports those candidates for any reason other than their Fiscal stances.

    You can't get behind the Tea Party because most of the people strongly pushing the Tea Party's kind of fiscal conservatism also push some form of Social Conservatism. That's fine. That's a legitimate stance to take. That doesn't mean the Tea Party is a Socially Conservative entity.
    So if it walks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, and flies like a duck and looks like a duck, you are saying it might be NOT a duck?
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