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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    As is environmentalism, gun control, and pro-choice for members of the Anti-War Movement. But again, I did not see people suggesting those things HAD to be discussed whenever there was talk of the Anti-War movement, individuals backed by the Anti-War Movement, etc.

    There is a difference between something that is a focus of members of a group and a focus OF THE GROUP.

    For example, this thread is asking what the "Tea party" is not what "the Tea Party Membership" is
    The politicians the tea party, not the members, the tea party, have backed are generally social conservatives, and the tea party membership has a large segment that is socially conservative. I think its a valid point to bring up when discussing the tea party
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So you think a libertarian should not be in favor of the Governemnt making killing an illegal immigrant murder?
    A libertarian can believe what they want and vote how they want.

    IE...I'm saying to you "fetus" = "child with full rights" to these people and thus "abortion" = "murder". Your response is that the fetus isn't a citizen so he doesn't have right to life so its not murder and it shouldn't be illegal to kill them.
    True. If you don't like it then amend the Constitution and grant the unborn citizenship. If people believe they are truly alive, then how come they are not pushing as hard as they can to get them citizenship?

    Would it stand to reason that Illegal Immigrants = Not a citizen and therefore similarly they don't have a right to life so its not murder and it shouldn't be illegal to kill them.
    Well I think both abortion and killing an illegal immigrant could be called "murder", but they shouldn't be protected by the Constitution since they aren't citizens.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    A libertarian can believe what they want and vote how they want.
    and yet in thread after thread you claim I am not a libertarian?


    Your all over the map, perhaps you should consolidate your opinions so you look like you have a clue.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    True. If you don't like it then amend the Constitution and grant the unborn citizenship. If people believe they are truly alive, then how come they are not pushing as hard as they can to get them citizenship?
    Because that would mean they had the right to healthcare as a fetus independant of the parents, the woman being forced to the wellbeing of the fetus, kabaam expansion of the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So now its "lungs"


    they begin to develop at 4 weeks.


    Also if the host person (Iwouldnt call that person a "mother") wanted to abort her baby at the vaginal crossing, according to your "libertarianism" that's her business. try to be at least a little consistent.
    I'm being totally consistant. At any point in a pregnancy, a woman can abort her baby. When the baby is aborted it will be removed whole and alive. As long as the baby lives, the parents will be expected to pay for it. If the baby dies after it has been aborted then that is it, but if it survives then it will be considered "born". If parents wish to ensure that the baby will not surive then they will have to abort it early, such as before it develop lungs and can survive on its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    If you lump all the minorities together, then yes.. there are more minorities on welfare, but we were mostly talking about black minorities.
    Really? I wasn't talking about Black Minorities. Go look at my statement. It was absolutely clear. I said minorities. That was it. You were the one that seemingly took me making a factual statement about a group and deciding that it warranted a comment about racism. Odd how that can happen to people, no?

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The politicians the tea party, not the members, the tea party, have backed are generally social conservatives, and the tea party membership has a large segment that is socially conservative. I think its a valid point to bring up when discussing the tea party
    Wait what? So a movement isn't the members, but the politicians that those members had supported. So the Anti-War movement isn't a movement of voters but is made up of the politicians voted in in 2006 that were backed by them?

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    and yet in thread after thread you claim I am not a libertarian?


    Your all over the map, perhaps you should consolidate your opinions so you look like you have a clue.
    Because you consistently want to violate other people's rights.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    fair enough.... Again, social conservativism is irrellevant these folks want certain economic conditions, and have backed less socialy conservative folks for more fiscally conservative ones.... Something you wont see on the cnn.
    There is a large segment of the tea party that is socially conservative, they not only want certain economic conditions met, but social ones as well, so it is not irrellevant to some members of the tea party, and that should be noted. Also most of their candidates have been socially conservative, something that would need to change before I take that they don't care about social issues just economic ones, seriously.

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