View Poll Results: What is the Tea Party to America?

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  • Good!

    42 48.84%
  • Good but Looney

    6 6.98%
  • Neutral.... no harm and no good

    2 2.33%
  • Negative and Looney

    24 27.91%
  • Flat out Disgusting!

    2 2.33%
  • People that are Very secure financially that dont understand reality!

    5 5.81%
  • I make love to the Papaya!

    5 5.81%
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    this guy may post on websites discussing politics

    YouTube - Exploding Tea Party Protester Threatens Interviewer

    he seems to have a message strangely familiar
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You have a token black guy! Cool!
    So, I can point out African Americans at Tea Party rallies who support those ideals and they are just "token black people." Yet you could point out "racists" who could most likely be liberal plants into the Tea Party and that automatically makes the entire group a racist organization of white angry Republicans...
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Well more than one poster has called me a racist in the past simply for supporting the ideals of the tea party. It's a blatant and rephrenesible lie, that starts out as "innocently" as Criticaltho0ughts post #3.
    It is mostly white... pointing that out isn't racist. Are you uncomfortable with people pointing out that is mostly white?

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I'm only pointing it out because of how funny their reaction is to it. They seriously have a problem with belonging to a mostly white group and I'm not sure why.
    Well, it typically a ****ty way to show "proof" that a group has a racial prejudice, it's inflammatory for nasty reasons.
    Doesn't really add to the debate over, what the group represents is good or not.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    It is mostly white... pointing that out isn't racist. Are you uncomfortable with people pointing out that is mostly white?


    Context. And when you get called a racist over and over again, wouldn't you become quick to smack down idiotic posts that would lend credence to that lie of a view?
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So, I can point out African Americans at Tea Party rallies who support those ideals and they are just "token black people." Yet you could point out "racists" who could most likely be liberal plants into the Tea Party and that automatically makes the entire group a racist organization of white angry Republicans...
    Dude, 89% of the tea party is white. Less than 5% is black. That means in a crowd of 20 tea partiers, maybe one of them will be black. Furthermore, these videos exist to demonstrate to the world that the tea party is not completely white. This guy wasn't videoed becasue of his opinion, he was videoed becasue of the color of his skin. By definition, when the tea party uses someone in that fashioin they are using them as a token.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    But are you all against reigning in the debt?
    No, but I think most liberals would be against irresponsible cuts in spending as well.
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Possibly, but studies have shown that the tea party tends to be socially and fiscally conservative, not just fiscally. However, I believe during its early days it was only about fiscal issues, so you would be right too.

    The Tea Party, Religion and Social Issues - Pew Research Center
    Yes, the Tea Party's membership tends to be largely socially conservative as well as fiscally conservative. Ironically enough, the Religious Right is made up of people that by and large likely tend towards fiscal conservatism as well...yet I doubt you'd claim that The Religious Right is a fiscal movement.

    The Tea Party is a CONSERVATIVE movement focused on Fiscal and Governmental issues. As such, its likely to attract CONSERVATIVES, which includes individuals that are social conservative. That doesn't mean that the movements message is one of Social Conservatism.

    I would bet money that most of those that make up the Anti-War movement are also pro-gun control. does that mean that the Anti-War movement is also a pro-gun control movement? I bet a majority of them are also environmentalists. Is the Anti-War Movement an Environmentalist movement as well?

    You have four major types of conservatives existing in America in recent years. When talking just about Fiscal and Social conservatism they'd lean in the following ways.

    - Libertarians, who usually lean right on fiscal issues and left on social issues.
    - Paleoconservatives, who usually lean right on Fiscal issue and right on Social issues
    - The Religious Right, who vary on their leans on Fiscal issues and right on social issues.
    - Neo-Conservatives, who vary on their leans on Fiscal issues but tend to lean right in terms of domestic spending and right on social issues.

    And then you generally have variations from there.

    So its not surprise that when you have three out of the four major types of conservative ideologies going on in the country leaning right on social issues that a group who is focused on a different facet of conservatism will have a majority of members that lean right socially. However, just because those individuals lean that way doesn't mean that the group's focus goes that way.

    The Tea Parties singular piece of information that is the closest to a binding vision amongst the various independent groups is the Contract From America, and it remains the same as it was at its creation. A document focused primarily on Fiscal and Governmental conservativism firstly and very minorly touches on social conservative issues.

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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    if economics is their passion issue you would think they knew about the tax cut

    YouTube - Befuddled Teabaggers at Cleveland Tea Party
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    Re: The Tea Party Is.....

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    do you fully support the democrat platform? I disagree and you note they say "majority".... I am in the minority, but I am more than happy to debate my fellow libertarians to death on the issue.
    I don't call myself a democrat, and I am not one... I think criminalizing abortion leads to big government. It's one thing to be personally opposed to abortion but allow to be legal, and another to use the government to force medical decisions on free individuals and punish them if they don't...

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