View Poll Results: Is it ok to lie to push your agenda forward?

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    Re: Do you think that....

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Bottom line, they ALL lie to get elected and they all spin to push what they want...and they are all wrong for doing it and it most always gets exposed in the long run.
    Gotta admit, I wasn't even thinking about politicians when I made this thread. Guess I'm just too use to thinking that they lie to think twice about it anymore. Sad fact that.
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    Re: Do you think that....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    So in other words you cannot be trusted. I had you pegged as a man of your word and not a liar.
    I am a man of my word. I benefit more from people being able to trust me than I would from almost any lie I could tell.

    But it's also important for people to trust me to lie for them when it's necessary.

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    Re: Do you think that....

    My Father told me: "You can go to Hell for lying, as well as stealing."
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    The systems that ensure freedom and liberty are breaking down and fundamentalism is growing. Nobody is righteous anymore.


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    Re: Do you think that....

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I am a man of my word. I benefit more from people being able to trust me than I would from almost any lie I could tell.

    But it's also important for people to trust me to lie for them when it's necessary.
    What, are you a lawyer?
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    Re: Do you think that....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What, are you a lawyer?
    I should've gone to law school, but no.

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    Re: Do you think that....

    This might seem wrong to you, but I think it depends on whether the end justifies the means. If you achieve the end, and it does justify the means, then okay. However, if it doesn't you should be punished.

    Not the best point of view, but its what I think.
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    Re: Do you think that....

    it seems this poll is built on an interesting assumption. wouldn't someone willing to lie to achieve a goal say they don't approve of lying in order to mantain credibility?

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    Re: Do you think that....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you think that it is ok to lie if it push's your agenda forward? IE win at any cost except break the law?
    My mom lied to me daily. I think she had the best intentions.

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    Re: Do you think that....

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    This might seem wrong to you, but I think it depends on whether the end justifies the means. If you achieve the end, and it does justify the means, then okay. However, if it doesn't you should be punished.

    Not the best point of view, but its what I think.
    I never cared for the "ends justify the means" arguement. I'm sure that Hitler or the 9/11 terrorists thought that thier acts were justifiable also. I'm sure that if Hitler had won instead of the Allied Forces then all of our "history" books would be saying that what happened was "necessary".

    IMO if something is actually worth getting then getting it properly is the best way.
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    Re: Do you think that....

    This is simply rationalization. A common defense mechanism used by everyone. It does not mean it was necessary for anyone or unnecessary for everyone

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