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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Urethra Franklin View Post
    A very black and white answer for a very black and white world in which we don't live.

    Your answer would be fine if every woman under a burqa were wearing one out of free choice, but they're not. Many are under a burqa because of force, or fear of the consequences if they don't tow the line. Many live in communities where rejection by family and community would be too hard to bear, hence they do as they feel they should so as not to be cast out, stigmatised or punished. Yes there will always be some exceptoin to the rule the Sunday papers who says she loves living under a curtain and she chose it, but they're far from the majority. Let's cut this crap that most burqua wearing women are free thinking feminists who've chosen to live covered - that argument sinks like a stone. And let's be frank about what wanting to keep wives and daughters under such subjugation really says about how much you value women as equals. Certain civil freedoms quite rightly take priority over a supposed religious freedom such as this one.

    Doubtless as ever on DP, the usual French bashers, relying on Fox news and having never set foot on French soil, will crawl out of the woodwork here. All I can say is that as somebody who isn't French but lives in France, most women and most muslims (of both sexes) here welcome this ban. A few mullahs will scream injustice, but they're not representative of the majority.
    Great post Just like the taliban controlling afghanistan before we went in would beat women in the street with a stick for dropping their veils or wearing what THEY considered inappropriate attire. Many women would throw that miserable uncomfortable thing away in a flash if the men would allow it.

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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    i would not favor a law that violates freedom of religion and freedom of speech.

    does anyone really believe honestly, that the majority of people who applaud a move like this care about women's rights? the fact is that this law would deny women the right to choose what they wear, and that is every bit as wrong as men denying women the right to choose what they wear.
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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Great post Just like the taliban controlling afghanistan before we went in would beat women in the street with a stick for dropping their veils or wearing what THEY considered inappropriate attire. Many women would throw that miserable uncomfortable thing away in a flash if the men would allow it.
    And the United States is in great danger of invasion and conquest by the Taliban these days?
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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Well none of us is allowed to ear whatever the hell we want. None of us.
    Actually... for the most part we are. As long as what we're wearing doesn't directly do harm to others, we can wear whatever we want. Hell, in some states, women can go topless, or choose to NOT wear whatever they want.
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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Banning them, certainly not. That's a violation of our most basic freedoms. However, I'd be entirely fine saying they cannot be worn under certain circumstances, such as for driver's license pictures. When religious freedom gets in the way of basic public safety and identification, screw religious freedom.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And the United States is in great danger of invasion and conquest by the Taliban these days?
    I dont understand your point sam, where in my post does it mention us being invaded by the taliban ? I was referring to the French law which makes sense and I agree with...and if they did it here Id give it a big oooohrah.

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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    What is it with these threads lately? Ban burning the Quran, ban burqa's...what next? Ban robes?
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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, what you say may be the case in Arab Muslim countries where women are forced to wear burqas.

    However, here in the United States women have the freedom of speech and freedom of religion to refuse to wear it as well.

    That's what you fail to realize - that people have a choice. And in the United States Muslim women have the choice to be as religiously conservative as they want to be. Or as secular and liberated as she wants to be.

    And should a community try to ostracize her for her choices then she also has the freedom of association and therefore may choose not to associate with that community. And should such a community choose to infringe on her civil rights and civil liberties she can use the due process of law to protect herself against that community.

    So the same freedom of speech and freedom of religion that prevents a ban of the wearing of burqas by women is also the same freedom of speech and freedom of religion that prevents the forced wearing of burqas by women.
    I agree 100%, a ban like this would be unconstitutional, and I could never support it.
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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Great post Just like the taliban controlling afghanistan before we went in would beat women in the street with a stick for dropping their veils or wearing what THEY considered inappropriate attire. Many women would throw that miserable uncomfortable thing away in a flash if the men would allow it.
    And the muslims of the middle east are like American muslims how?
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    Re: Would you favor a law banning burqas in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Actually... for the most part we are. As long as what we're wearing doesn't directly do harm to others, we can wear whatever we want. Hell, in some states, women can go topless, or choose to NOT wear whatever they want.
    Well you're not gonna see my unspeakables out in public!. Unless the priest says it's ok.
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