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PEACE can be OURS

Should we make peace with the MUSLIM world ?

  • YES - peace is needed NOW

    Votes: 13 81.3%

  • NO - it would be a sign of WEAKNESS

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Total voters
    16
Mr. Invisible said:
What are you personally willing to do to help modernize and educate people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and/or Libya?
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I do not know about Repeter, but I could join the Peace Corps, if the conservatives have not ruined this..
But at age 71 and partially disabled(mentally and physically) and no ability to speak Arabic..
We can but be champions for programs which help people, not kill them.
So, we must leave these areas with our military, IMO.
And the so-called "religious right" must also stay away.
 
You are COWARDS, you fear voting.
 
Peace is a two way road. The Muslim world needs to make peace with us if we are to make peace with them. Pretending that ending all military actions would result in peace is fantasy. The extremists would still exist and they would grow stronger.
 
digsbe said:
Peace is a two way road. The Muslim world needs to make peace with us if we are to make peace with them. Pretending that ending all military actions would result in peace is fantasy. The extremists would still exist and they would grow stronger.
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The Muslim people have tried on numerous occasions to make peace with the west but America has obstructed the process. There will be peace when the USA realizes that it cannot defeat the Muslim people. Muslims believe in their Prophet and Allah and will happily sacrifice their life in defence of those beliefs. Americans will sacrifice nothing for they have no beliefs.
 
Yukon said:
The Muslim people have tried on numerous occasions to make peace with the west but America has obstructed the process. There will be peace when the USA realizes that it cannot defeat the Muslim people. Muslims believe in their Prophet and Allah and will happily sacrifice their life in defence of those beliefs. Americans will sacrifice nothing for they have no beliefs.
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When and how? What I've seen is militant groups rising up and wanting to take over nations while preaching death to the west. We aren't in Iran yet they want to destroy America and Israel. It's Islamic extremism and it's dangerous violent actions that are a threat, and their goal is not peace but rather destruction. I don't understand what you are talking about when you point out Muslim devotion to Muhammad and Allah.

"Americans will sacrifice nothing for they have no beliefs." Then why are we one of the most charitable nations on earth? How dare you make a statement like this. What about the soldiers and military families that sacrifice for our country and safety? Americans do have beliefs, and many are willing to lay down their lives as soldiers for those beliefs and for their fellow Americans. Your comment is extremely disrespectful to soldiers and their families and it's completely false.
 
Yukon said:
The Muslim people have tried on numerous occasions to make peace with the west but America has obstructed the process. There will be peace when the USA realizes that it cannot defeat the Muslim people. Muslims believe in their Prophet and Allah and will happily sacrifice their life in defence of those beliefs. Americans will sacrifice nothing for they have no beliefs.
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hmmm....Fidel one day and then teabagger the next, what's up with that?

The Muslim people have tried on numerous occasions to make peace with the west but America has obstructed the process
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Who? When? and what do you mean by the west? and when did the U.S obstruct such a process between what you refer to as the Muslims and also what you refer to as the west..what in the world are you talking about.
 
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Do not play ignorant. You know what is meant by the "west". The US obstructs everything they feel will result in higher gas prices.
 
Yukon said:
Over 300 views and yet only 9 people have had the intestinal fortitude to voice their opinion via a vote. This proves my point that the absolute majority of people are but politically correct cowards.
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Or maybe it was just a stupid poll that doesn't describe the complexity of the situation.
 
Yukon said:
You are COWARDS, you fear voting.
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there are not enough options... you are limiting the vote to two extremes... and most people arn't as extreme as you are and actually know the issue is much more complex then "do you like peace or is wanting peace weakness" basically. There is a reason why people don't take Miss America seriously whens she says she wants "World Peace".
 
Of course there are only two choices. PEACE or WAR.

Either you are intelligent and wish to live in peace with our Muslim brothers and sisters or you are an absolute insane person who desires to kill and make war against innocent men, women, and children simply because they do not practice the "white-man's" Christian religion.

I do not give a third choice.
 
Yukon said:
Of course there are only two choices. PEACE or WAR.

Either you are intelligent and wish to live in peace with our Muslim brothers and sisters or you are an absolute insane person who desires to kill and make war against innocent men, women, and children simply because they do not practice the "white-man's" Christian religion.

I do not give a third choice.
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The war in the Middle East is not a war against Islam nor is it a crusade to enforce Christianity by the sword. The problem lies with the conduct of the Muslim nations. Peace is a two way street, if we simply cease war so that the conflict started by Muslim countries may flourish is nothing short of surrender. Sometimes war is a necessary evil.
 
How does one debate with those who have been brainwashed to believe that there is NO war against Muslims, NO attempt to enforce Christian values, and that the problem lies with Muslim nations? It is not possible. Those who believe peace is surrender have never been to war, have never seen men die, have never known fear. Sad but true.

QUOTE=digsbe;1059508324]The war in the Middle East is not a war against Islam nor is it a crusade to enforce Christianity by the sword. The problem lies with the conduct of the Muslim nations. Peace is a two way street, if we simply cease war so that the conflict started by Muslim countries may flourish is nothing short of surrender. Sometimes war is a necessary evil.[/QUOTE]
 
Yukon said:
How does one debate with those who have been brainwashed to believe that there is NO war against Muslims, NO attempt to enforce Christian values, and that the problem lies with Muslim nations? It is not possible. Those who believe peace is surrender have never been to war, have never seen men die, have never known fear. Sad but true.
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No offense, but I think you are wrong and deceived. The US is not a theocracy. If you look at the facts the truth is that most of the Muslim nations enforce Islam and oppress Christianity. In many countries in that region Christians are denied citizenship, oppressed, receive unequal rights and treatment, and are banned from leading anyone to our faith or for any Muslim to convert (to any religion).

Would it be peace for the US and Europe to surrender to Hitler and Japan during WWII? Peace is a two way street, not a one man surrender so that evil actions may prevail.
 
As I said DIGSBE I will not debate this subject with you - you are too narrow minded and with all due respect I also think you are a bigot.
 
I think we could make peace with the muslim world. We could even make peace with the Muslim world; however, I cannot see peace with the MUSLIM world. All-caps don't want peace.
 
Yukon said:
How? Practice respect in America and listen to other people and develop understanding, whether you agree or not. Often, when Conservatives get to know Muslims the Conservative realizes that he has much in common and has a new friend instead of a perceived enemy.
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I also did not vote because of the way your answers are set up. "No, it would be a sign of weakness". That is like asking someone have you quit beating your wife/husband/friend? Yes or No. either way, you admit you beat them.

Why can't someone say no without saying it is because it would show weakness.
I agree it would be nice if the world did not have any wars or conflicts.
All sides need to show respect and understand each other. How many suicide bombings went off in the last 24 hours that were done by non Christians. Seems the other side needs to show some understanding and respect.
 
We basically kicked down our neighbor’s door, killed his wife and destroyed his home and now wonder why our neighbor hates us and wants to kill us, lol.
We need to stop policing the world, pull back our empire and worry about our own damn country.
 
digsbe said:
No offense, but I think you are wrong and deceived. The US is not a theocracy. If you look at the facts the truth is that most of the Muslim nations enforce Islam and oppress Christianity. In many countries in that region Christians are denied citizenship, oppressed, receive unequal rights and treatment, and are banned from leading anyone to our faith or for any Muslim to convert (to any religion).
SO-called American Christians are pretty much faux, but I do notice them burning texts, shutting down adult book stores, shutting down adult parlors, forcing their god's laws into public court rooms, preventing muslims from building a NY shrine, murdering abortionists, condeming and shutting down gay equal rights, preventing gays in the military, disallowing adoptions, disallowing shared benefits, disallowing hospital visits, etc. Seems your assessment is flawed.
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Would it be peace for the US and Europe to surrender to Hitler and Japan during WWII? Peace is a two way street, not a one man surrender so that evil actions may prevail.
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You might ask that question from where we stand in the ME today. Peace won't come by surrender. Russia learned that lesson. We are just slow learners.
 
It is an utopia, the place of weak America will be immediately taken by the Religion of Peace and Tolerance.

Reason:

Islam can understand any blah-blah about Peace only as weakness.
It know no pardon to infidels.
Thank western dumb politicians Islam will conquer our countries, all non-Muslims will be either killed or pushed to embrace Islam.

Proofs:

Quotes from the Qur'an

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

Islam Watch - Links to other websites

Neobyzantine Movement : Genocide :: genocide list on Orthodox Christians






 
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What a stupid poll. To what Muslim World do we make peace with, Shia or Shiite? Oh that right they haven’t made peace with themselves yet. Oh, there are other forms too! Then when we find out which side is the winner we make peace by converting? Maybe not. What a stupid poll.
 
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