View Poll Results: Should we make peace with the MUSLIM world ?

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    Of course there are only two choices. PEACE or WAR.

    Either you are intelligent and wish to live in peace with our Muslim brothers and sisters or you are an absolute insane person who desires to kill and make war against innocent men, women, and children simply because they do not practice the "white-man's" Christian religion.

    I do not give a third choice.
    The war in the Middle East is not a war against Islam nor is it a crusade to enforce Christianity by the sword. The problem lies with the conduct of the Muslim nations. Peace is a two way street, if we simply cease war so that the conflict started by Muslim countries may flourish is nothing short of surrender. Sometimes war is a necessary evil.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    How does one debate with those who have been brainwashed to believe that there is NO war against Muslims, NO attempt to enforce Christian values, and that the problem lies with Muslim nations? It is not possible. Those who believe peace is surrender have never been to war, have never seen men die, have never known fear. Sad but true.

    QUOTE=digsbe;1059508324]The war in the Middle East is not a war against Islam nor is it a crusade to enforce Christianity by the sword. The problem lies with the conduct of the Muslim nations. Peace is a two way street, if we simply cease war so that the conflict started by Muslim countries may flourish is nothing short of surrender. Sometimes war is a necessary evil.[/QUOTE]

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    How does one debate with those who have been brainwashed to believe that there is NO war against Muslims, NO attempt to enforce Christian values, and that the problem lies with Muslim nations? It is not possible. Those who believe peace is surrender have never been to war, have never seen men die, have never known fear. Sad but true.
    No offense, but I think you are wrong and deceived. The US is not a theocracy. If you look at the facts the truth is that most of the Muslim nations enforce Islam and oppress Christianity. In many countries in that region Christians are denied citizenship, oppressed, receive unequal rights and treatment, and are banned from leading anyone to our faith or for any Muslim to convert (to any religion).

    Would it be peace for the US and Europe to surrender to Hitler and Japan during WWII? Peace is a two way street, not a one man surrender so that evil actions may prevail.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    As I said DIGSBE I will not debate this subject with you - you are too narrow minded and with all due respect I also think you are a bigot.

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    I think we could make peace with the muslim world. We could even make peace with the Muslim world; however, I cannot see peace with the MUSLIM world. All-caps don't want peace.

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    How? Practice respect in America and listen to other people and develop understanding, whether you agree or not. Often, when Conservatives get to know Muslims the Conservative realizes that he has much in common and has a new friend instead of a perceived enemy.
    I also did not vote because of the way your answers are set up. "No, it would be a sign of weakness". That is like asking someone have you quit beating your wife/husband/friend? Yes or No. either way, you admit you beat them.

    Why can't someone say no without saying it is because it would show weakness.
    I agree it would be nice if the world did not have any wars or conflicts.
    All sides need to show respect and understand each other. How many suicide bombings went off in the last 24 hours that were done by non Christians. Seems the other side needs to show some understanding and respect.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    We basically kicked down our neighbor’s door, killed his wife and destroyed his home and now wonder why our neighbor hates us and wants to kill us, lol.
    We need to stop policing the world, pull back our empire and worry about our own damn country.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    No offense, but I think you are wrong and deceived. The US is not a theocracy. If you look at the facts the truth is that most of the Muslim nations enforce Islam and oppress Christianity. In many countries in that region Christians are denied citizenship, oppressed, receive unequal rights and treatment, and are banned from leading anyone to our faith or for any Muslim to convert (to any religion).

    SO-called American Christians are pretty much faux, but I do notice them burning texts, shutting down adult book stores, shutting down adult parlors, forcing their god's laws into public court rooms, preventing muslims from building a NY shrine, murdering abortionists, condeming and shutting down gay equal rights, preventing gays in the military, disallowing adoptions, disallowing shared benefits, disallowing hospital visits, etc. Seems your assessment is flawed.
    Would it be peace for the US and Europe to surrender to Hitler and Japan during WWII? Peace is a two way street, not a one man surrender so that evil actions may prevail.
    You might ask that question from where we stand in the ME today. Peace won't come by surrender. Russia learned that lesson. We are just slow learners.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    It is an utopia, the place of weak America will be immediately taken by the Religion of Peace and Tolerance.

    Reason:

    Islam can understand any blah-blah about Peace only as weakness.
    It know no pardon to infidels.
    Thank western dumb politicians Islam will conquer our countries, all non-Muslims will be either killed or pushed to embrace Islam.


    Proofs:

    Quotes from the Qur'an

    Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

    Islam Watch - Links to other websites

    Neobyzantine Movement : Genocide :: genocide list on Orthodox Christians






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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    What a stupid poll. To what Muslim World do we make peace with, Shia or Shiite? Oh that right they haven’t made peace with themselves yet. Oh, there are other forms too! Then when we find out which side is the winner we make peace by converting? Maybe not. What a stupid poll.

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