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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    Delta,

    You are voicing propaganda that has been fed to you for a generation by the Pentagon. Fidel Castro was and is a great man.
    LOL...hardly, these figures just scratch the surface of course Cuba specifically not included and this is what you advocate. That said, communist have to put all those bodies somewhere although, you or other communist supporters may be able to trip over them and just pick up and cary on your way, for myself I can not. Castro is a murderer period. The U.S. knows it, the world knows it and you don't...why?

    Other figures for people who differ from communist views
    65 million in the People's Republic of China
    20 million in the Soviet Union[3]
    2 million in Cambodia
    2 million in North Korea
    1.7 million in Africa
    1.5 million in Afghanistan
    1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
    1 million in Vietnam[4]
    150,000 in Latin America
    10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in pow

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    Many Americans have suffered in the name of the war on terror since the tragic events of Sept. 11, 2001. Conservative Christians must reject the practice of targeting individuals because of their religious and/or political beliefs, and renew their commitment to the Constitution's Bill of Rights and its protections of civil rights, political freedom and equal justice.

    How? Practice respect in America and listen to other people and develop understanding, whether you agree or not. Often, when Conservatives get to know Muslims the Conservative realizes that he has much in common and has a new friend instead of a perceived enemy.

    Peace is rooted in the tenor of our interactions at home as well as internationally.


    Embrace your fellow man and stop kicking him for being different.



    Praise Jesus, and Praise the Prophet.
    I've read all this before, and I have posted much the same myself.
    I replace "praise" with "learn from"....

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    Easy. I do believe Christianity is the best of all world religions and that the "others" are bogus. That being said I am not going to hate people for practicing a bogus religion or kill them. I will do my best to 'live-and-let-live'. Personnally there is no religion worth killing for - NONE !


    P.S. I notice that you did not vote. Do you fear what you really believe ?
    I am "a-religious".
    The philosophy of Jesus and some other is good, but my interest is not there.
    At times, I feel that all religion is bogus.

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Personally, I'd like peace everywhere all the time, and a generally high standard of living for all citizens of humanity.
    Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime.~ Ernest Hemingway

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I am "a-religious".
    The philosophy of Jesus and some other is good, but my interest is not there.
    At times, I feel that all religion is bogus.
    E-Worm,
    I do agree with your 'religion is bogus' comment. Too often people use Jesus to justify their actions. For goodness sake G. Bush, Junior claimed to be a devout Christian even as he signed more than 150 death warrants while Governor of Taxes making him one of the greatest mass murderers in US history - he is so-called devout Christian yet he refused to grant clemency even to condemed child convicts.

    Those who claim to be devout Christians will inject poison into a man's arm in the name of justice and tell you it's God's will. They make me vomit.

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    Delta,

    You are voicing propaganda that has been fed to you by the Pentagon. Fidel Castro was and is a great man.
    I'm curious when people make such statements...why do you think that?
    Veni. Vidi. Vici.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Why would making peace possibly help the situation? There are plenty of psychopaths in the Muslim world still trying to kill us. What we need to do is make the regions we're fighting in modern, and educate the people.

    I'm also not sure how trying to make peace would be a sign of weakness. We should be trying to normalize relationships with the groups in Afghanistan, because unless we want to kill eveyrone in the country, we're going to have to continue to deal with them.
    Veni. Vidi. Vici.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Oh gosh, another pole with two polarized choices. If only people were that simple. But, just asking the question that way this and other poles do illustrates how much trouble we are in.

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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Why would making peace possibly help the situation? There are plenty of psychopaths in the Muslim world still trying to kill us. What we need to do is make the regions we're fighting in modern, and educate the people.

    I'm also not sure how trying to make peace would be a sign of weakness. We should be trying to normalize relationships with the groups in Afghanistan, because unless we want to kill eveyrone in the country, we're going to have to continue to deal with them.
    Agree. But both of these things are a hell of a lot easier said than done.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: PEACE can be OURS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Agree. But both of these things are a hell of a lot easier said than done.
    Yeah...we really shouldn't have gone in with the goal of a occupation, but we've done it, and we've got to stand by our actions.
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