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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    If Obama had an ounce of integrity, he'd give credit where it's due. It makes me laugh when he talks about fiscal responsibility. It's so obvious he doesn't believe it.
    Ultimately it doesn't really matter much who takes credit. If Obama and Boehner both feel that they got the better end of the deal, that's great. It means that they were able to work together and actually get something done, and both come out of it not feeling like they backed down.

    But in terms of the actual policy, I think the budget is a lot closer to what the Democrats wanted than it is to what the Tea Party wants. If moderate Republicans are happy with it and are willing to vote for it, then I have no problem at all with them declaring victory and sharing in the credit.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Ultimately it doesn't really matter much who takes credit. If Obama and Boehner both feel that they got the better end of the deal, that's great. It means that they were able to work together and actually get something done, and both come out of it not feeling like they backed down.

    But in terms of the actual policy, I think the budget is a lot closer to what the Democrats wanted than it is to what the Tea Party wants. If moderate Republicans are happy with it and are willing to vote for it, then I have no problem at all with them declaring victory and sharing in the credit.
    I'm with you there. The deal works for what it is and both sides can take credit if they want to.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Ultimately it doesn't really matter much who takes credit. If Obama and Boehner both feel that they got the better end of the deal, that's great. It means that they were able to work together and actually get something done, and both come out of it not feeling like they backed down.

    But in terms of the actual policy, I think the budget is a lot closer to what the Democrats wanted than it is to what the Tea Party wants. If moderate Republicans are happy with it and are willing to vote for it, then I have no problem at all with them declaring victory and sharing in the credit.
    How magnanimous of you considering there'd been no cuts if it had been up to the Dems.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    How magnanimous of you considering there'd been no cuts if it had been up to the Dems.
    That's cool. I'm glad we both agree it's a good budget.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    How magnanimous of you considering there'd been no cuts if it had been up to the Dems.
    True, but one wonders if some in the Tea Party would be idiotic enough to think they could manage the 60. I was impressed they nailed it at 39 rather than 38.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    True, but one wonders if some in the Tea Party would be idiotic enough to think they could manage the 60. I was impressed they nailed it at 39 rather than 38.
    Even 60 bil would not have been that great of a cut considering how much was spent last year, but I agree, it's better than nothing.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Obama shouldn't be taking any credit at all when we all know, if it were up to him, there'd been no cuts at all. The deal's ok, but the cuts should have been deeper. Maybe in the 2012 budget.
    There would actually be increases if I remember correctly.

    How many riders on this bill? Zero? Oo. No PP. No EPA. oO.
    The PP can survive without government funding. For example, you can fund it.

    The myth that the EPA saved the country is disgusting. People like yourself are always bringing up China and claiming we would of ended up like China without the EPA. That is blatantly false to put it simply. We would have never turned out like China for two reasons, one, our court system, and two our prosperity. That is of course not paying any mind to the fact that China is in control of the system to a large degree, it is ignoring that if you speak up you get punished for doing so, but it is paying attention to one simple truth. People will do anything and accept a great deal more when they are struggling to make a name for themselves then when they aren't. They will also deal with a great deal of damage from their neighbors to their everyday lives if they have no way to stop it. Both are solved in our system at the moment, and neither were solved by the EPA. When companies were polluting in rivers, they got sued, and they cleaned up their acts. The EPA didn't solve that problem, it didn't avoid any future problems since, all it does is stop the business from solving the problem on their own. The EPA is not needed. The same is true for the FDA, or the FCC or Obama's consumers protection agency.

    ...ahem..

    The budget itself is pretty useless. A few billion dollars in cuts is completely pointless at this point, but asking anymore in this taker society is gifted with protest in response. Then again, asking for just that is gifted with it. Hell, any cuts at all is gifted with protest.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Does anyone have the details of what was cut? I can't seem to find any details yet.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Who won the budget deal?

    So what do you think?
    This question is PRECISELY the problem with the US and the idiotic partisanship that is ruining this country today. The issue with the budget is a competition between idiot conservatives and equally idiot liberals. NO ONE won. Everytime these two groups get together and fight about something like this, THE CITIZENS OF THE US LOSE.
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    Re: Who won the budget deal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    How many riders on this bill? Zero? Oo. No PP. No EPA. oO.
    Exactly, Boehner had fold his carda on those. My vote is for Pres. Obama and support from Harry Reid.

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