View Poll Results: Should they recieve back pay

Voters
30. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    17 56.67%
  • No

    10 33.33%
  • Partial (explain)

    2 6.67%
  • Other (explain)

    1 3.33%
Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 456
Results 51 to 54 of 54

Thread: Should non-essential employees get back pay?

  1. #51
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,323

    Re: Should non-essential employees get back pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you want people to be paid for work that they didn't do?Why not give employees the opportunity to make up for lost days?
    Your congressman makes these decisions, that's who you should write and complain to. If you don't think fed employees should be paid, that's where you go. On the same note, people who lose their jobs should not be getting unemployment benefits either, since they are not working.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

  2. #52
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,555

    Re: Should non-essential employees get back pay?

    What should happen, but never will, is a law that Congress must pass a balanced budget by the set deadline, and that failure to do so will trigger a general election in which every seat is up for grabs, and no incumbent can run. That will get them to do what we've elected them to do.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

  3. #53
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Should non-essential employees get back pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    It looks as if a government shutdown is extremely likely to occur at midnight tonight. When that happens essential employees will continue to work, but will not be paid until the shutdown ends. Non-essential employees will be furloughed without their salaries. In 1996, when passing the new budget, the congresses authorized backpay for the employees that were furloughed. Whether or not that will occur for this shutdown is unknown. My question to you is should it be?

    Going against the notion of back pay is a couple of things that I can think of. First and foremost, these individuals will not have worked adn thus shouldn't be entitled to pay. Additionally, as we know we're in a financially troubled time in this country and not paying them would mean more money to be used elsewhere.

    On the flip side, these individuals are not striking. They are not choosing to not work. They are being forced out of their job because the Congress is not successfully doing theirs. They are already being punished by essentially having their salaries at the very least delayed, potentially causing issues for various bills and expenses, and by causing their workload to significantly pile up. Should they have extra punishment placed on top for Congresses ineptitude by not just delaying, but cutting, their salaries?

    So what do you all say? Should there be back pay, should they be paid nothing, or some other alternative?
    They shouldn't be paid, they're part of the government and while it isn't a rare event, government shut downs do happen every so often. It's the governments inability to govern, and this is a side effect of it. Government employees don't get paid when the government isn't working.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  4. #54
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,067

    Re: Should non-essential employees get back pay?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Your congressman makes these decisions, that's who you should write and complain to. If you don't think fed employees should be paid, that's where you go. On the same note, people who lose their jobs should not be getting unemployment benefits either, since they are not working.
    I never said federal employees should not be paid for the work they do.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

Page 6 of 6 FirstFirst ... 456

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •