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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    I say no. For every evil act committed in the name of religion, there are probably ten positive acts committed in the name of religion.

    The Salvation Army is a perfect example. They have touched the lives of hundreds of millions of people, in a positive way, for decades and they're not the only religious group to do so.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I say no. For every evil act committed in the name of religion, there are probably ten positive acts committed in the name of religion.

    The Salvation Army is a perfect example. They have touched the lives of hundreds of millions of people, in a positive way, for decades and they're not the only religious group to do so.
    They also refuse to feed people who don't profess religious beliefs and you have to pray with them to get a bed for the night. They're a really poor example of a positive religious influence.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    There needs to be a profile thingy that indicates a member is smart.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    No. The world would be better off it those who practice a religion would keep it in their private sphere, would cease all proselityzing and would respect the beliefs of other faiths. And this goes double for the insufferably rabid atheist that make me ashamed to admit my own atheism.
    THANK you for this. I've seen atheists be just as self righteous and judgmental as any extreme religious fundamentalist.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    There needs to be a profile thingy that indicates a member is smart.
    Why would you want that?

    You wouldn't qualify...

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    Do you believe the world would be better off without religion?

    I would have to guess “no difference”. Religious groups undeniably do a lot of good in the world, but there are also many wars centered on religious differences. Without religion, I believe there would still be the good deeds - those people who do such deeds do so because it is in their nature and a church (for example) is just their means, but other means would be used instead (i.e. nonprofits). I also believe mankind would still find something to go to war over (and so religion is just an excuse to fight over something - basically that war is in our nature too)… and so I don’t think there would be much of a difference. Our actions are not in spite of or because of religion. Religion is just a means to multiple ends that all derive from human nature.

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    I voted no but would have perfered some other option...like "other".

    For somethings yes it would be better. For example we wouldn't have muslim extremeists commiting atrocities because of how they interpret thier religion. Gays would be able to marry, abortion wouldn't be as big of a deal.

    But for other things it would be bad to not have it. For example there wouldn't be that peace of mind that religions give to people. That sense of something out there being greater than oneself. The prospect of something Good. It also helps communities come together and promotes helping others more than athiests do. At least imo.

    As with anything else it has its pro's and its con's.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then you got the wrong message. It was to demonstraight that religion or not, we would find other things to fight wars over.
    You do realize that those atheists factors were religious. The belief in a supreme being is not required for something to be a religion. Enviro-loons for example are religious even though a great number of them are atheists. Enviro-loons have a certain set of beliefs and practices agreed up by a lot of enviro-loons and they agree to those beliefs and practices.



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    a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They also refuse to feed people who don't profess religious beliefs and you have to pray with them to get a bed for the night. They're a really poor example of a positive religious influence.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    I rather admire religion even if I have personally only had the vaguest of sensations toward it or subscribe in mere basics. I believe at the very least, humans would have been on the same level, if not worse off without it. I'm not the biggest enthusiast in the belief that the rational mind shall triumph or that is how I shall want to think about the human condition.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They also refuse to feed people who don't profess religious beliefs and you have to pray with them to get a bed for the night. They're a really poor example of a positive religious influence.
    No. Apdst is exactly right. Another for instance, nobody helps AIDS victims in cities more than the catholic church. Nobody is refusing any of these people if they are gay.

    People are going to think that forcing religion on people will ultimatly save them and improve their lot. It's not some sort of evil scheme. Who could turn a hungry child away?

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