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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Absolutely yes. Many of the wolds problems are au cause of religion.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    I'm not positive how important religion is but I'd hate to think that anybody would go through life feeling they were inconsequential or unimportant. You are an amazing miracle. If you ever come close to death you will know that you are loved unconditionally by some sort of power. I have come very close and have heard the same report from others, "being hugged by love" is the general feeling.

    If you believe in evolution then you have survived hundreds of millions of years of disease, devastation, wars, starvation. That is a miracle. You are a miracle.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    This is not a question of religion, but a question of morality. If there is no religion, then there is no "Higher Power", basis of morals, or accountability. If the world was without religion, where would the ethics come from? Humans. And if humans make the rules, then there is corruption, relativism, and Postmodernism. If one person says they want to murder widows and orphans, then there is NO BASIS for another person to say that is wrong, if there is no religion. Religion makes a standard for morality. And generaly, religion makes a person want to do good, in order to accept reward or avoid punishment from a higher being. Without religion, there is chaos.

    While horrible things have been done in the name of religion, horrible things have been done in the name of everything, including goodness and righteousness. It really is the lesser of two evils.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forte_Voce View Post
    This is not a question of religion, but a question of morality. If there is no religion, then there is no "Higher Power", basis of morals, or accountability. If the world was without religion, where would the ethics come from? Humans. And if humans make the rules, then there is corruption, relativism, and Postmodernism. If one person says they want to murder widows and orphans, then there is NO BASIS for another person to say that is wrong, if there is no religion. Religion makes a standard for morality. And generaly, religion makes a person want to do good, in order to accept reward or avoid punishment from a higher being. Without religion, there is chaos.

    While horrible things have been done in the name of religion, horrible things have been done in the name of everything, including goodness and righteousness. It really is the lesser of two evils.
    At this point, we've thoroughly regulated ourselves, so there is a reason not to go around and kill people. But nothing can match the concept of an eternal afterlife of heaven or hell.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Ah, but have we really regulated ourselves? What about the genocide in Africa? What about the bombings in Libya? What about the gang violence and murders? Yes, we have regulations, but it's only a matter of time before the lack of a moral basis caused by the absense of religion becomes so much more popular.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forte_Voce View Post
    Ah, but have we really regulated ourselves? What about the genocide in Africa? What about the bombings in Libya? What about the gang violence and murders? Yes, we have regulations, but it's only a matter of time before the lack of a moral basis caused by the absence of religion becomes so much more popular.
    I'd like for you to give a look at my post. I've sorta just come to these conclusions and I guess I want to know what a smarty thinks. It seems to me we've each won the lottery every day for a whole year we're so lucky. Is that just the way it is or is that the miracle of god?

    You too repeter.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Sorry, which post?

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I'd like for you to give a look at my post. I've sorta just come to these conclusions and I guess I want to know what a smarty thinks. It seems to me we've each won the lottery every day for a whole year we're so lucky. Is that just the way it is or is that the miracle of god?

    You too repeter.
    I think it's a little of both. Its too much stress and tension to think that the world is not being guided towards a certain path by a superior being, so I prefer to believe that God just made things this way for something we don't understand yet. So...God made it so this is just the way it is, IMO.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Forte_Voce View Post
    Ah, but have we really regulated ourselves? What about the genocide in Africa? What about the bombings in Libya? What about the gang violence and murders? Yes, we have regulations, but it's only a matter of time before the lack of a moral basis caused by the absense of religion becomes so much more popular.
    I don't quite agree. Religion has served as a backbone for governing ourselves, but now most of the regulation is without the guiding hand of religion. There is a basic humanity thaat we each serve, and while there are major issues we need to resolve, we don't completely ignore them. The problem is we have our own problems to deal with, and we can't fix someone else's house until ours is in order.

    I also disagree with the absence of religion part. People are definitely not becoming areligious. The problems we're facing right now are because certain people are too engrossed with their religion, and its alleged superiority. Furthermore, there have been plenty of instances where religious fervor resulted in atrocities, but people never stopped believing God.

    Nature herself has imprinted on the minds of all the idea of God. There really is no getting around that.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Yes, it is true that horrible things have been made in the name of religion. But horrible things have also been done in the name of color, race, family, etc. Are we to do away with those things?

    Areligion is just a fad. Religion always decreases during a time of economic growth, and we just left one of those times.

    Also, we would not have gotten the backbone for our morals without religion.

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