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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Death to the table eaters!

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Me too. I think they were fighting about what to name the new atheist alliance (or something like that). Their point (which I agree with) is that war and conflict will happen regardless of religion or not. I love getting moral insight from South Park
    I think they were illustrating that religious conflicts do not have to involve a belief in a deity.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    I'm not sure if the question is even valid, as it is with a lot of "what if" questions. Would it even be possible for religion to have been completely absent from human history? I personally think it's in human nature in general to have some sort of faith, that is not based on logical reasoning, in phenomenon of some sort or another whether that savior be Christ, Buddha, faith in the belief that science can solve all of our problems, etc.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure if the question is even valid, as it is with a lot of "what if" questions. Would it even be possible for religion to have been completely absent from human history? I personally think it's in human nature in general to have some sort of faith, that is not based on logical reasoning, in phenomenon of some sort or another whether that savior be Christ, Buddha, faith in the belief that science can solve all of our problems, etc.
    On that point, I'm a bit confused. God came before the next closest thing that provides anything close to the same level of comfort, which I would say is government. People couldn't believe science was going to somehow make their lives fine and dandy. Government can't provide an eternal afterlife, or the dread of Hell for being sinful. In that respect, I do think religion is irreplacable, because it is a very unique idea that comes in many shapes and sizes.

    Its like asking whether the world would be different without, say, a specific type of fruit (to keep things simple). Sure, there are other fruit out there to consume, but the fruit you take away cannot be completely and totally replaced. It just wouldn't be the same.

    And in that regard, I'd say the world would have started off more violently, and more carelessly. Would people way back when have been kind and thoughtful if not only to avoid an eternity of burning in Hell? I'd argue no. And would they have done that to reserve a spot in eternal bliss? Heck yeah, I would.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think they were illustrating that religious conflicts do not have to involve a belief in a deity.
    Then you got the wrong message. It was to demonstraight that religion or not, we would find other things to fight wars over.

    Better yet let Matt and Tray tell you....

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Then you got the wrong message. It was to demonstraight that religion or not, we would find other things to fight wars over.

    Better yet let Matt and Tray tell you....

    I agree. If religion did not exist, humans would likely find refuge in other dogmatic beliefs to fight over, whether that be political ideology or something else.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    Do you believe the world would be better off without religion?

    thoughts?
    Seems the masses need it.

    The world would be better off if there had never been religion, if that were an option.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

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    Yeah, also I love the otters

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    Yes!!! We could give the most profane yet morally stimulating sermons in all of history.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    How did we end up with so many religions? If any one of them was correct it would be obvious to all and the problem would be solved. Yup, one correct religion and justice etc. would just be.

    Didnít vote, I donít know enough. I surprised that some others did and do.

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