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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    HELL NO. The idea of God has served as a basic moral compass since man started growing as a species. Given the other choices we have, I would say that the idea of God in any form as an absolute necessity in a human's life, at some point. Everything else is far easier to corrupt, and God in and of itself as a concept is incorruptable, IMO.

    I think thats really the most important thing about God. God cannot do wrong, whereas everything else in life can do wrong or go wrong. To be faithful that there is a larger, supreme being carefully guiding your life in the right direction for you is extremely comforting to me. The closest thing we have to that is Communist Government, and obviously, Communist Govermments do wrong, and go wrong, and misdirect your life.

    EDIT: I'd also like to point out that the idea of God came before every other moral compass we as a society have developed.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    The problem with religion is in its metaphysics, i .e. there are too many untestable assumptions which have to be taken "on faith" and more importantly - they often contradict the assumptions of the neighbor.
    I prefer the more rational and scientific approach.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Yes.

    So long as one recognizes that blind emotional devotion to ideology is a religion substitute, often exemplified by those devout socialists.

    Libertarianism is one of the very few rational ideologies. The world would certainly be better of if the people were free.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The idea of God has served as a basic moral compass since man started growing as a species.
    Yes it does, but those morals tend to differ drastically. Example: Some gods encourage and reward throwing virgins into volcanoes, some do not. Just because the concept of a god serves as a moral compass, doesn't mean it always points in a good direction.

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Given the other choices we have, I would say that the idea of God in any form as an absolute necessity in a human's life, at some point. Everything else is far easier to corrupt, and God in and of itself as a concept is incorruptable, IMO.
    That is completely and totally incorrect. There are plenty of people who have never had any faith in a god, who live perfectly happy lives, and are completely content with their lives. One must first define corruption.

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    I think thats really the most important thing about God. God cannot do wrong, whereas everything else in life can do wrong or go wrong.
    You must first define right and wrong, as these concepts are entirely subjective.

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    To be faithful that there is a larger, supreme being carefully guiding your life in the right direction for you is extremely comforting to me.
    A comforting thought indeed. But it's completely unverifiable, and to be honest, it sounds delusional and a little psychotic. Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?


    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    The closest thing we have to that is Communist Government, and obviously, Communist Govermments do wrong, and go wrong, and misdirect your life.
    All governments direct people's live. And all governments can be detrimental to their peoples.

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    EDIT: I'd also like to point out that the idea of God came before every other moral compass we as a society have developed.
    And it's not a very good one. The word of god is easily falsified, and can cause a grand spectrum of behavior.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Nah, here's a few cool things religion has given us:








    And pretty much every major scientific breakthrough from ancient times to the 1800's, when the first secular educational institution appeared.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    No. The world would be better off it those who practice a religion would keep it in their private sphere, would cease all proselityzing and would respect the beliefs of other faiths. And this goes double for the insufferably rabid atheist that make me ashamed to admit my own atheism.

    I'm a very big believer in a secular society with absolute separation between church and state. Like any other human invention religion can lead to amazing things as Bruce's post shows. It can also be the worst of weapons when placed in the wrong hands. I think this would be a much better world if everyone had the ability to keep their religious beliefs in their home and house of worship. But this is as much of a pipe dream as a world without religion.
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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    The world would be a far better place if we were all practicing Christians. Other religions are all bogus.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    HELL NO. The idea of God has served as a basic moral compass since man started growing as a species.
    This assumes that religion came before morality. To the contrary, I would say that religion developed as a tool to teach morality, which itself is fairly common-sense (e.g., murder is bad because I don't want to get murdered for no reason, stealing is unfair because I worked hard, somebody else shouldn't get it for free, etc.). Religion was useful during the time when it was difficult to punish corrupt individuals--the response was to promise punishment in the afterlife by some all-knowing superior being.

    Given the other choices we have, I would say that the idea of God in any form as an absolute necessity in a human's life, at some point. Everything else is far easier to corrupt, and God in and of itself as a concept is incorruptable, IMO.
    I would say that some sects of the FLDS, and countless third-world societies refute this point. In fact, I would argue that God has been the ultimate force of corruption throughout the history of mankind.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    The world would be a far better place if we were all practicing Christians. Other religions are all bogus.
    Forcing people into Christianity goes against the Teaching of Jesus.

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    Re: Would the world would be better off without religion?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Forcing people into Christianity goes against the Teaching of Jesus.
    I said nothing about forcing anybody to do anything. It's odd how people read something and completely misunderstand what is said. No wonder the world is so "screwed up".

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