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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Normally it happens, but considering how many Democrats are pissed with Obama it isn't hard to imagine that some may switch to Clinton if she decides to run. I mean it was totally possible that, again, we won't know the nominee until hours before the convention, but this time it could be a different outcome.
    I have a hard time believing that the DNC would choose someone else unless Obama is an absolute disaster from here on out; they'd pretty much be shooting themselves in the foot. As much as many liberals (including myself) have been less than thrilled with his performance, I'd say he's still the front runner.
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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

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    All signs point to NO......

    Considering how Obama constantly defies the Will of the People.......all signs point to HELL NO......
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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I have a hard time believing that the DNC would choose someone else unless Obama is an absolute disaster from here on out; they'd pretty much be shooting themselves in the foot. As much as many liberals (including myself) have been less than thrilled with his performance, I'd say he's still the front runner.
    Without question he is the front runner, my point was it won't be some easy victory as is. And if he gets blamed for a shutdown, I don't know if they would rather put some one up who stands a better chance at against the GOP candidate. Granted, a lot of polling and debates happen between now and then and so maybe you are right and Obama will get the nomination either way.

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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    That question seems to be in the hands of Donald Trump at the moment.

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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Without question he is the front runner, my point was it won't be some easy victory as is. And if he gets blamed for a shutdown, I don't know if they would rather put some one up who stands a better chance at against the GOP candidate. Granted, a lot of polling and debates happen between now and then and so maybe you are right and Obama will get the nomination either way.
    I agree. However, I don't think he'll get blamed for the shutdown and depending on how long it lasts, it might not even play as big a part in his reelection as other factors. I still say at the end of the day it's a very long shot that the DNC would choose another candidate to replace him, but that's just my personal opinion.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    It sure doesn't look good for him at this point. I'm waiting to see who his opponent is before I say for sure who I'll be voting for. There are definitely worse choices (Michele Bachmann jumps to mind immediately). There are also better choices, but I think a lot of it depends on who the Republicans run.

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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It sure doesn't look good for him at this point. I'm waiting to see who his opponent is before I say for sure who I'll be voting for. There are definitely worse choices (Michele Bachmann jumps to mind immediately). There are also better choices, but I think a lot of it depends on who the Republicans run.
    The last poll numbers, when I looked at them today, showed Romney having the best chance. But, I highly doubt he would get the nomination because of his religion, which would not fly over too well the the religious right, and Masscare.

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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    It depends. If the government shuts down and blame is placed on him, I think he will have a very hard time making it out with the DNC nomination. If the blame is placed on the Republicans, he will still have a hard time getting the nomination, but it will be easier.
    There is not a chance in Hell he doesn't get the DNC nod... unless of course Hillary runs. As for re-election. Not looking too good for Mr. Carter, I mean, Mr. Obama.

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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    There is not a chance in Hell he doesn't get the DNC nod... unless of course Hillary runs.
    Well see that is the kicker, it has to be Hillary. It was just the Super delegates had such a hard time picking between the two and it took Kennedy to petition them to go for Obama, that I don't know if some of the don't want do overs. And again we can't forget about Michigan and Florida.

    As for re-election. Not looking too good for Mr. Carter, I mean, Mr. Obama.
    Actually, polls still have him up, but once the debates and polling and campaigning starts, I am sure the numbers will change.

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    Re: Will Obama get a second term?

    Of course Obama will get the nomination. And he'll probably win the election. Most incumbents do. However, I would be REALLY interested to see two candidates for the same party really have to differentiate themselves on the issues. Sadly, what that usually ends up meaning is that the other side will win. Like Gore and Nader splitting the left vote.

    Either way, Obama will probably win. Especially if all the republican candidates are nutcases or extremists. Much as I might respect folks like Ron Paul or Mike Huckabee as having a lot of personal integrity, a lot of their policies are somewhat extreme. And as we've discussed in other threads, there aren't a lot of serious libertarians who'd vote for these guys.
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