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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    And this is why I consider her fictional works utopian and thus not applicable to the real world.
    Utopian is some kind of perfect world.
    I don't think there is any real intent to create a perfect world, in fact the world needs to be a sort of dystopia for things to get better.
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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Yup. Those people HAVE to be taken care of, whether we personally like it or not. Morality demands it.
    Well I know that a lot of those people aren't taken care of now.

    If your morality demands it, open your wallet and show how much you care.
    No matter which world we chose, you shouldn't have a problem helping without a tax.
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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The Illiad Starts out with Achilles throwing a temper tantrum over a slave. Don't even try and pass it off as not portraying him with a tragic flaw.
    Which leads to the Greeks being pushed back, which leads to Achilles' lover fighting the Greeks in his place, which leads to his death.

    The whole thing ends with Achilles and the father of the man who killed Achilles' lover weeping in each other's arms at all they've lost.
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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie



    In case anyone wanted to see the trailer.
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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    The only way governments sustain a capitalistic economy are by enforcing property rights, contracts, having law courts, and military/police.
    So essentially protecting the wealthy from the poor, each other, and their foreign counterparts.

    Can ya give us any examples where this kind of paradise actually exists?
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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well I know that a lot of those people aren't taken care of now.

    If your morality demands it, open your wallet and show how much you care.
    No matter which world we chose, you shouldn't have a problem helping without a tax.
    My morality demands it of me and everyone

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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The Illiad Starts out with Achilles throwing a temper tantrum over a slave. Don't even try and pass it off as not portraying him with a tragic flaw.
    That's the problem with the poorly educated. They insist on reading literature from their own perspective and lack the ability to even try to view the literature from the position of a member of the culture for which it was written.

    Mayor Snorkum is betting you believe the story "Moby Dick" was either about a whale or a porno-film.

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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post

    In case anyone wanted to see the trailer.
    Yeah, as expected, the Hollywood crowd couldn't convey the core messages on film. This movie is going to be about trains.

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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Utopian is some kind of perfect world.
    I don't think there is any real intent to create a perfect world, in fact the world needs to be a sort of dystopia for things to get better.
    In this sense, 'utopian' could be said to mean idealistic or unrealistic concepts of a future world; the world as SHE imagines it could or should be.
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    Re: Atlas Shrugged movie

    I think Ayn's best work was her original piece, We the Living.

    In my view, Atlas Shrugged was a mixed bag. It was to Libertarianism what Religulous was to Atheism. Entertaining, but not altogether the first source of material I would use to build my philosophical foundation. Yes, I know I chose the username ElijahGalt in reference to John Galt, but frankly it's because I'm not that creative in establishing usernames. I wanted something that sort of fused my personal identity with my philosophical identity. Elijah is my first name, and Galt is the name of a character that some, but not all people would recognize in Atlas Shrugged.

    Rand was far too anarchical for my tastes. She also did not deliver her ideas with the grace I would expect from an influential thinker. Still, I think there's a lot that can be learned from reading her works.

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