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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    What a stupid idea.

    The First Amendment first prohibits Congress from passing laws regarding the free exercise of religion.

    Then then First Amendment prohibits Congress from abridging the freedom of speech.

    Then there's Article I, Section 8, which seems to miss allowing Congress the power to kiss muslim butt or cower before the nation's enemies and put chains on Americans instead.

    Then there's the Tenth Amendment that says since the rest of the Constitution does not grant Congress the power to be a sharia court, then the power to be a sharia court does not exist for Congress.

    And Article 4, Section 4 requires the states to have republican forms of government, which again, limits their power to be dumb-asses.
    Do you honestlly think the founders of this country wanted the people to be free to instigate war with other countries by insulting their religions? Or even damaging trade relations?

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Do you honestlly think the founders of this country wanted the people to be free to instigate war with other countries by insulting their religions? Or even damaging trade relations?
    Yes, they viewed the individual as more important than the state.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    Yes, they viewed the individual as more important than the state.
    Could you show any evidence that they wanted people to have the particular rights I outlined?

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Do you honestlly think the founders of this country wanted the people to be free to instigate war with other countries by insulting their religions? Or even damaging trade relations?
    The First Amendment has nothing to do with that.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Do you honestlly think the founders of this country wanted the people to be free to instigate war with other countries by insulting their religions? Or even damaging trade relations?
    Absolutely they wanted the people to be free.

    Not being childish ignorant asses, they were both perfectly aware of the religious wars of Europe, and of the definition of the word "responsibility", and they would know that the man who burned his own bible in Philadelphia would never be responsible if someone in Liverpool heard about it and rushed out to kill a dozen people in the streets as a result.

    They'd have both the wisdom and maturity to know that a man's freedom cannot be curtailed just because some other people are crazy.

    In fact, it's pretty certain that they'd believe the lunatic should be locked up long long before anyone considered taking away an innocent man's freedom.

    And that sounds like such a perfectly reasonable notion.

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    I would not support such a Congressional initiative. The flag is not sacrosanct, and neither is the Quran.

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Could you show any evidence that they wanted people to have the particular rights I outlined?
    Could you show any evidence that they didn't want the people to have the maximum liberty possible consistent with maintaining a civil and peaceful society?

    no, you can't, because that's exactly what they wanted and exactly what the Constitution gave us, if we can keep it.

    Lock up the dangerous loonies with the urge to get head, not the hate filled asses who attack books, that's what they wanted.

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Could you show any evidence that they didn't want the people to have the maximum liberty possible consistent with maintaining a civil and peaceful society?.

    There is nothing civil or peaceful about enraging other countries or religeons to the point of war and murder. Or will constant insulting and demeaning with our free speach eventually turn them into people just like us? Then we won't have to hate them anymore,

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Could you show any evidence that they wanted people to have the particular rights I outlined?
    Certainly, you said:
    be free to instigate war with other countries by insulting their religions? Or even damaging trade relations?
    The first amendment gives people the right to insult other peoples religions, the responses of other countries to that free speech is the prerogative of the other countries, not the person making the statement.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    The first amendment gives people the right to insult other peoples religions, the responses of other countries to that free speech is the prerogative of the other countries, not the person making the statement.
    My gawd, the first amendment is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. A constitution providing an amendment that we can burn the constitution even!

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