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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    I don't know. It seems that burning a Koran is not the same as burning a bible or a flag. Christians have a degree of tolerance that Muslims do not.

    What if burning a Koran to them was like slamming passenger jets into our tall buildings? I don't know enough about it.

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I don't know. It seems that burning a Koran is not the same as burning a bible or a flag. Christians have a degree of tolerance that Muslims do not.

    What if burning a Koran to them was like slamming passenger jets into our tall buildings? I don't know enough about it.
    Should the way people might react half a world away dictate what speech is protected and which isn't? Seems like a dangerous precedent and a near encouragement to behave brutally.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Should the way people might react half a world away dictate what speech is protected and which isn't? Seems like a dangerous precedent and a near encouragement to behave brutally.
    Dangerous or not is for the courts to decide. Watts v. U.S. and Virginia v. Black: true threats are unlawful
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I don't know. It seems that burning a Koran is not the same as burning a bible or a flag. Christians have a degree of tolerance that Muslims do not.

    What if burning a Koran to them was like slamming passenger jets into our tall buildings? I don't know enough about it.
    that wouldn't amount to such logic being valid nor represent any rational reason for curbing rights.

    After all, people don't have a right not to be offended

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Dangerous or not is for the courts to decide. Watts v. U.S. and Virginia v. Black: true threats are unlawful
    But in black vs Virginia it was established a blanket ban against cross burning was unconstitutional because it doesn't always amount to a true threat. Also, the ruling was heavily based on the use of cross burning to convey threats, no such history around Quran burning exists.

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Dangerous or not is for the courts to decide. Watts v. U.S. and Virginia v. Black: true threats are unlawful
    That's not really what I meant by "dangerous". I meant more that banning Quran burning could be an incentive for groups to act violently thinking it's a way to get their religious texts more legal protection.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by ManofthPeephole View Post
    But in black vs Virginia it was established a blanket ban against cross burning was unconstitutional because it doesn't always amount to a true threat. Also, the ruling was heavily based on the use of cross burning to convey threats, no such history around Quran burning exists.
    I agree, it isn't very broad, but sufficient for any lawful purposes.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    VIRGINIA V. BLACK

    if anyone here is interested, here is the case law for black vs Virginia

    Oddly enough, black was my neighbor while growing up.
    Last edited by ManofthPeephole; 04-04-11 at 09:45 PM.

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    I may be speaking too soon, but I thinks it's actually pretty cool that, whatever the political lean, there's near universal agreement on this question.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Should the way people might react half a world away dictate what speech is protected and which isn't? Seems like a dangerous precedent and a near encouragement to behave brutally.
    We have to show some degree of respect for all the world's people. What's important is to protect our citizens' right to be completely offensive to Americans, not some other country with different beliefs and customs and laws.
    Last edited by sazerac; 04-04-11 at 11:17 PM.

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