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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Emphatic No. What if I need a Quran for firewood or something.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Symbolic speech, like destroying something like a religious icon, or burning the flag, is protected by the first amendment.
    No. For the same reasons.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This weekend, Sen. Lindsey Graham suggested that he'd like to see Congress consider doing something about burning the Quran.



    Lindsey Graham On Koran Burning: “Freedom Of Speech Is A Great Idea But We’re In A War.”

    If legislation were proposed making it illegal to burn or destroy the Quran (at least publicly) would you support it?

    Follow up question, would such legislation may survive a Constitutional challenge?
    Answer to first question no. Its just a bunch of pieces of paper bond together and nothing more. Making it illegal to burn it suggests that it is some how more than just a book. The people who react to someone burning a Koran or any other religious book need to see a quack for some psychiatric help.

    It won't survive constitutional challenge because we are not some Euro-trash country or Canada that bans speech we find offensive. And because congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion as defined in our first amendment("separation of church" and state is not in the constitution). Banning the burning of any religious book would most certainly be a law respecting an establishment of religion. We also have free speech which United States v. Eichman declares that burning stuff is a form of speech,so if flag burning is a form of free speech then burning a religious book falls under the same category.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This weekend, Sen. Lindsey Graham suggested that he'd like to see Congress consider doing something about burning the Quran.



    Lindsey Graham On Koran Burning: “Freedom Of Speech Is A Great Idea But We’re In A War.”

    If legislation were proposed making it illegal to burn or destroy the Quran (at least publicly) would you support it?

    Follow up question, would such legislation may survive a Constitutional challenge?
    I would not support it. I should be free to burn my flag or bible or quran if I feel the need to do so. And I doubt it would survive a Constitutional challenge even if they did make some law. This is all forms of protected speech.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This weekend, Sen. Lindsey Graham suggested that he'd like to see Congress consider doing something about burning the Quran.



    Lindsey Graham On Koran Burning: “Freedom Of Speech Is A Great Idea But We’re In A War.”

    If legislation were proposed making it illegal to burn or destroy the Quran (at least publicly) would you support it?

    Follow up question, would such legislation may survive a Constitutional challenge?
    No! If people can burn the US flag then by god (no pun intended) can burn the Quran. I would consider it to be a major insult if such legislation were passed (or even suggested) while totally ignoring the fact that our national flag gets burned.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    No and no.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    I am amazed that anyone even would consider such draconian steps

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    It just doesnt fly with our government and law. It's not possible.

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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    Aside from the first amendment argument, there really is no need to, and doing so would be completely reactionary. There is already a SC precedent for discerning speech that has social value, and that which does not. Some instances of burning the Quran, like some instances of burning the flag, are not protected speech, but for the most part (like 99.9999%) it is.
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    Re: Should Congress Ban Burning of the Quran

    No. It doesn't serve any practical purposes. People should always have the choice to be stupid.

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