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  • Any religious private school that included religious education/indoctrination.

    0 0%
  • Specific religious private schools that included religious education/indoctrination.

    1 3.33%
  • Religious private school that only use tax dollars for secular education.

    1 3.33%
  • Any religious private school whose education is secular.

    2 6.67%
  • Non-religious private schools.

    6 20.00%
  • I support school vouchers regardless of the type of school.

    8 26.67%
  • I do not support school voucher at all regardless of the private school.

    13 43.33%
  • other/I do not know

    4 13.33%
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    What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    Any religious private school that included religious education/indoctrination.

    Specific religious private schools that included religious education/indoctrination. (please specify and why object to one religious school and not another)

    Religious private school that will only use tax dollars for secular education. Meaning they promised not to use tax payer dollars for any religious education or indoctrination.They either charged the parents for the religious education/indoctrination, use private donations to fund religious education/indoctrination or or a combination of the two or use volunteers to do the religious teaching/indoctrinating.

    Any religious private school whose education is secular.(in other words they may be a school ran by a religious organization but they have no religious education/indoctrination)

    Non-religious private schools.

    I support school vouchers regardless of the type of school.It should be the parent's choice what type of private school they want to use the vouchers for.

    I do not support school voucher at all regardless of the private school.





    I support vouchers to private schools and I think it should be the parent's choice regardless if they want to send their child to a atheist,Christian,Jewish, Muslim, Catholic or what ever private school.
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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    If people want to send their kids to a private school they need to use their own money. Taxes paid for public schools need to stay that way - its part of the Commons.

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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    I don't support vouchers at all.

    I pay my property tax and participate in every fund raiser in order to help cover the costs of education for my children. If I have problems and concerns - I take an active role in changing the broken system.

    Voucher programs only divert much needed funds away from public schools - putting the burden on those of us who do what we can to make public school work.
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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    Scrap Vouchers.

    My argument would be simply that when tax payer money is in play, accountability is paramount, and you do not get that with vouchers when you start handing money hand over fist to private businesses (Which is what private schools are, lets not get that mistaken) that do not have to report how that money is used.

    Another argument is that those students will benefit from a private school as they're generally better then public schools.

    Having been to both kinds across 3 different continents, I can tell you that it's simply, a case by case basis for the schools. There were some teachers at my public school in Canada that were 10000X better then some teachers at the 150 year old boarding school I went to in England and then the same in the over crowded public school I went to in South Africa.

    All in all.
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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    I didn't see my option: I support vouchers for all public schools. If you want to attend a private school you are on your own.

    School choice is a good thing.
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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    I favor school vouchers. Parents who are not rich should have options for their children other than the failing taxpayer supported schools. As it stands now you have to support both the tax-supported school and the private school if you want your kids to have a choice.

    I realize it's silly to expect the union-organized, lifetime employment tax-supported schools to compete, though.
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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    I can't say that I would support any voucher program as it wouldn't fix the problems we are having in education.

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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    Vouchers are just as unconstitutional as the present system of transferring taxpayer money to educrats.

    Also, the nation already has in place a system of educational vouchers, and it's done nothing but make education more unaffordable and chaotic. That system is known as "how the United States government funds college tuition for the masses". Thanks to that voucher system, college tuitions have risen at two or even three times the rate of inflation.

    The problem with public education is that the government is running it. Education could best be fixed by getting the federal government out of the unconstitutional practice of funding it.

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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If people want to send their kids to a private school they need to use their own money. Taxes paid for public schools need to stay that way - its part of the Commons.
    Except, of course, that the tax exists to provide education the child. That the child's parent declines to send their child to a gangster-infested drug distribution center that cannot teach the three R's does not divorce the child from the state's assumed responsibility to provide funds to educat him.

    Also, since the story is that it costs $8000 a year to educate a child in a public school, then removing the child from that school should reduce the cost to the state by eight grand and there's no valid reason the money allocated for that child should not stay with him. His departure should not provide a net profit to the school system, thereby inflating the cost of education to the taxpayers on a per capita basis.

    How about if the federal government gets out of the education business, since, as Thomas Jefferson said in his sixth State of the Union address, the Constitution does not allow it there anyway?

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    Re: What kinds of private schools would you support vouchers for?

    Let’s speak candidly about vouchers for a moment.

    1. Vouchers run the risk of improving education even if vouchers are not a single bullet solution. Competition amongst schools creates an incentive to improve education outcomes.
    2. The problem with vouchers as it is commonly discussed is related to the understanding of how education is funded. The bulk of education spending in most school districts is directly linked to property taxes. Every property owner pays property taxes (or will suffer consequences), but not every property owner has children in school. This means that a large portion of the money spent to educate children is not coming from the parents of the child in question. It is not for the parents of a child to make a decision to remove funds from a school district BEYOND what the parents paid into the school district. This essentially means that those who rent do not get a choice and those who own only get a partial amount of the funds spent to educate their child.
    3. If parents want to use a voucher based upon the funds they paid into the system as property owners, I have no problem with them sending their child to any education facility AS LONG AS the facility has an open door policy. You cannot create true competition without having a level playing field. This means that we either eliminate the laws that require public schools to educate every child that enters their doors OR we force private schools who would accept vouchers to have an open door policy.
    4. Failure to level the playing field will create an undue burden on public schools. Public schools will not be able to compete, not because they cannot create a quality product, but because they are forced to take the children the private schools refuse to take. This allows private schools to take the “cream of the crop” so to speak and leave those with special needs for the public schools to educate. When you create that environment, you are preventing the public schools from creating the same level of quality outcomes as the private schools simply because you are creating a false statistical grouping.

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