View Poll Results: Which tax payer funded employee should go through a "trial de nova" when fired?

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  • Teachers

    3 25.00%
  • Firemen

    3 25.00%
  • policemen

    3 25.00%
  • janitors employed by the state or city

    0 0%
  • dog catcher/animal control officer

    1 8.33%
  • meter maids

    0 0%
  • receptionist/secretaries working for the city or state

    0 0%
  • other tax payer funded employees

    0 0%
  • All tax payer funded employees should be allowed to go through "trial de nova"

    0 0%
  • No tax payer funded employees should be allowed to go through "trial de nova"

    8 66.67%
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    Re: Which tax payer funded employee should go through a "trial de nova" when fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which tax payer funded employee should go through a "trial de nova" when fired? In other words which tax payer funded employees should go through judges to make sure proper procedures were followed when the individual was fired?


    Teachers
    Firemen
    policemen
    janitors
    dog catcher/animal control officer
    meter maids
    receptionist/secretaries
    other tax payer funded employees
    All tax payer funded employees should be allowed to go through "trial de nova"
    No tax payer funded employees should be allowed to go through "trial de nova"




    It looks like some elected officals in my state are using common sense
    Senate approves bill easing teacher firings | Tulsa World





    I say no tax payer funded employee should go through a judge to determine if proper procedures were followed when they were fired. It is some silly **** for tax payers to spend 80-100 thousand dollars just to fire a teacher.
    I would say the one that provide a significant public service and require special training. That would be teachers, police, and fire fighters.

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    Re: Which tax payer funded employee should go through a "trial de nova" when fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Finally, anyone who wishes to work at places you describe doesn't have any self-respect, so why expect them to respect anything?
    You lost me here.

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    Re: Which tax payer funded employee should go through a "trial de nova" when fired?

    Quote Originally Posted by turtledude
    interesting-I have handled a couple hundred Title VII or ADEA cases. its rather hard to get away with that.
    We always found it quite easy to get away with. The keys are control of information and lying about the reason for termination--sometimes also the date. Of the 20-some-odd people I've fired for religion, race, political affiliation, or major illness, IIRC 4 sued, zero ever went to court or got a settlement of any kind. In fact, we never lost a suit; given that I was one of five guys brought to bear on delicate terminations, my guess would be that we had somewhere around 80-100 such instances over the decade I was in that line. I left because I found myself no longer in agreement with the ethics of my employer.

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    Re: Which tax payer funded employee should go through a "trial de nova" when fired?

    You need to have a new trial to show those involved in the first trial that public employees cannot be fired.

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