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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    nobody is forcing anyone to commit a crime, unless you live in such abject poverty that you must commit theft to survive. I highly doubt this is Yukon's case.
    In the US, one doesn't need to steal to eat. Shoot, we have panhandlers on every corner where I live. As much as I would hate to beg, I'd do that before stealing from someone else.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I can somewhat understand that a felon might lose his right to own a gun...but it's bothersome. As to voting? I don't think they should lose that right. They will continue to pay taxes...they should be represented.
    Actually I think ex-cons are more likely to be supported by taxes.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually I think ex-cons are more likely to be supported by taxes.
    I hear ya', and my heart honestly goes out to those who want to turn their lives around. It is so damned difficult...
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    In the US, one doesn't need to steal to eat. Shoot, we have panhandlers on every corner where I live. As much as I would hate to beg, I'd do that before stealing from someone else.
    John Stossel just did an undercover report on pan handlers. You would get about $150 per day begging. Tax free. Even if your sign said you will work for beer.So no, there is no need to steal in big-hearted America
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukon View Post
    Patrick,

    I dont post hatred nor do I sink to the use of subtle racist comments. Do not confuse truth and non-PC discussion with hate.
    This from the guy who says White Anglo Saxon Protestants were granted dominion over the earth by God.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Is from the guy who says White Anglo Saxon Protestants were granted dominion over the earth by God.
    I think he actually meant being overtly racist when he said that.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think he actually meant being overtly racist when he said that.
    Then he has no business claiming that conservatives hate minorities.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    nobody is forcing anyone to commit a crime, unless you live in such abject poverty that you must commit theft to survive. I highly doubt this is Yukon's case.
    Nobody is forcing anyone to commit a crime regardless. No matter what kind of abject poverty you live in, there are always choices. There are charities, there is public assistance, there is panhandling, there are lots of things that can be done to make money and get food and shelter that don't require anyone to break the law. That's clearly true because not all poor people are criminals, obviously some of them, in fact most of them, are better than that.

    There are no excuses for people to commit crimes, no matter how hard they try to justify it. Someone screws up, they have to deal with the consequences of their actions and some actions have livelong consequences, like it or not.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    First, I believe that the government has an obligation to defend the populace from discrimination due to race, religion, gender and age if the applicant is qualified for the job. That said, it's impossible to enforce unless the employer is stupid enough to say "I won't hire you because you're the wrong religion, race, gender or age."

    Now when it comes to a person's felonious history, damned right an employer has the right to discriminate. I don't want a convicted child molester working in a day care or at a school. I don't want someone convicted of embezzlement working in accounting. I don't want someone with a history of theft working on the loading dock.

    Frankly, it's logic 101.

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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    First, I believe that the government has an obligation to defend the populace from discrimination due to race, religion, gender and age if the applicant is qualified for the job. That said, it's impossible to enforce unless the employer is stupid enough to say "I won't hire you because you're the wrong religion, race, gender or age."

    Now when it comes to a person's felonious history, damned right an employer has the right to discriminate. I don't want a convicted child molester working in a day care or at a school. I don't want someone convicted of embezzlement working in accounting. I don't want someone with a history of theft working on the loading dock.

    Frankly, it's logic 101.
    Not quite logic 101, IMO.



    What we feel the government has an 'obligation' to protect comes down to what we individually prioritize: The freedom of the business owner to run his/her business as they please OR making sure the privelage of work is equally accessible.

    To me, work is a privelage. Not a right. Making decisions on running your business (property) as you see fit (so long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others) is a true right.

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