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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    We do criminal background and credit checks, amoung other things, on all prospects. If they have a felony on their record or less than very good credit, they never hear from us. They never even know they were being considered.

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    Now THAT should be illegal! That should be VERRRRRY illegal! A persons credit has ZERO to do with job performance. In fact it is very personal information. Any company that asks for a credit background check on a job applicant should be heavily fined. Plus the person whos credit was run should be able to sue the company.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Now THAT should be illegal! That should be VERRRRRY illegal! A persons credit has ZERO to do with job performance. In fact it is very personal information. Any company that asks for a credit background check on a job applicant should be heavily fined. Plus the person whos credit was run should be able to sue the company.
    In Illinois, as I know you know, it is illegal to run credit for the purposes of considering one for employment. Not in all states, though.

    Users of the information for credit, insurance, or employment purposes (including background checks) have the following responsibilities under the FCRA:

    They must notify the consumer when an adverse action is taken on the basis of such reports.
    Users must identify the company that provided the report, so that the accuracy and completeness of the report may be verified or contested by the consumer.
    You can see the Fair Credit Reporting Act would be hard to enforce re running credit checks on potential employees.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    In Illinois, as I know you know, it is illegal to run credit for the purposes of considering one for employment. Not in all states, though.
    One easy way around that is just don't hire anyone from IL.

    You can see the Fair Credit Reporting Act would be hard to enforce re running credit checks on potential employees.
    Another easy way around these laws is to just outsource the checking. There are numerous companies not subject to USA jurisdiction that handle this function. All the USA based companies see is a list of candidates that meet their requirements. They don't even know if anyone was excluded from the list or reasons for any exclusions.

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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Now THAT should be illegal! That should be VERRRRRY illegal! A persons credit has ZERO to do with job performance. In fact it is very personal information. Any company that asks for a credit background check on a job applicant should be heavily fined. Plus the person whos credit was run should be able to sue the company.
    if i am a lender looking for someone to process loan applications, their credit history has a huge bearing on whether they would make a suitable candidate for the job
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if i am a lender looking for someone to process loan applications, their credit history has a huge bearing on whether they would make a suitable candidate for the job
    Not only that, but credit history is a good indicator of reliability. If you can't even pay your own bills on time, how can I trust you as an employee to work reliably? Plus, people with a high debt ratio may be more apt to steal from the company to pay their bills.

    I'll bet that the people who are complaining loudest are the ones with bad credit scores.
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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    We do criminal background and credit checks, amoung other things, on all prospects. If they have a felony on their record or less than very good credit, they never hear from us. They never even know they were being considered.

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    I would like to know what company you work for, because conducting a criminal or credit background without their knowledge and written consent is illegal. Without their consent, obtaining that information is a violation of their right to privacy.

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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Now THAT should be illegal! That should be VERRRRRY illegal! A persons credit has ZERO to do with job performance. In fact it is very personal information. Any company that asks for a credit background check on a job applicant should be heavily fined. Plus the person whos credit was run should be able to sue the company.
    Folks like myself don't borrow money, so naturally I will have a bad credit score for the rest of my life.

    For those who do worship the I-love-debt score, every credit check penalizes the score, and every check will appear on your report, so you can prove a damage.

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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Not only that, but credit history is a good indicator of reliability. If you can't even pay your own bills on time, how can I trust you as an employee to work reliably? Plus, people with a high debt ratio may be more apt to steal from the company to pay their bills.

    I'll bet that the people who are complaining loudest are the ones with bad credit scores.
    I don't use a credit card to pay my bills, so my credit score is incapable of displaying my level of responsibility.

    As I don't borrow money, I have a bad score. Forget the fact that I do maintain a positive balance on my utilities, rent, insurance and child support.

    I bet the people who complain the loudest are responsible people like myself who are deemed inferior just because we don't regularly borrow money.

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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I would like to know what company you work for, because conducting a criminal or credit background without their knowledge and written consent is illegal. Without their consent, obtaining that information is a violation of their right to privacy.
    First off, the chance of you getting that is slim to none and slim left town.

    That said however, I misspoke. We do not do the checks, ourself. For USA based employees, we give the position requirements to a couple of offshore companies. Those requirements always include extreme honesty and trustworthness. We get a list of folks that meet those requirements. So far, these two companies have not disappointed us.

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    Re: Can employers reject applicants who have a criminal history

    People who have served their sentence should be allowed to rejoin society and function as productive citizens. If they can't get jobs, how the Hell are they supposed to do that?

    I've got a simple solution for business afraid of hiring someone with a theft conviction because they might steal again. If someone gets caught a second time, shoot them. It will cut down on the problem drastically.

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