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Who won the Vietnam War?

Who won the Vietnam War?

  • The French

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The British

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Americans

    Votes: 6 6.1%
  • The Canadians

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Chinese

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • The Russians

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • The Japanese

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Vietnamese

    Votes: 46 46.5%
  • No one

    Votes: 23 23.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 18 18.2%

  • Total voters
    99
We were there for 21 years.

What is it we wanted to be doing there in the first place? What were the goals? That's the issue. We had no clear goal, just a platitude about "fighting Communism".

We went under the UN and many countries participated..... The object was to stop the spread of Communism.

we could have won easily but the Democrats would not let us do that.
 
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We went under the UN and many countries participated..... The object was to stop the spread of Communism.

we could have won easily but the Democrats would not let us do that.

You mean if the Democrat president, Lyndon Johnson hadn't sent half a million troops over there?
 
I like the 2 votes for Canada. Seeing as they weren't in Vietnam I guess you could say that yup they were the big winners :)
 
This question was brought up in another thread about Libya which I don't want to derail any further; but I find it interesting. It appears that many people have a different perspective and I find it funny. So please, cast your vote and if you are enclined explain your choice.

I have voted the Vietnamese. The goal of their war was to reunite Vietnam and it was achieved.

I would say the North Vietnamese and their allies the USSR and China. Who lost, the South Vietnamese to include the 2 million South Vietnamese who were killed or died in the North Vietnamese re-education camps and fleeing Vietnam by boat. The Cambodians to include 2-3 million Camobidans who were either killed or died at the hands of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge along with another 500,000 Laotians who were also killed by the PL to include the attempted extermination of the Hmong tribe of Northern Laos particularly around the PDJ. I would also include the United and the allied forces in Vietnam.
 
America won most of the battles

Vietnam won the war

America accomplished its ultimate objective (the death of Soviet communism)

And now we have a new dynamic to deal with in Asia, namely Chinese communism.
 
The more interesting question to me: if the USA had won the Vietnam War outright, in what way would Asia be different today? In what way would China be different?
 
America won most of the battles

Vietnam won the war

America accomplished its ultimate objective (the death of Soviet communism)

And now we have a new dynamic to deal with in Asia, namely Chinese communism.

Actually we never lost a battle in Nam and that includes Tet.
 
I like the 2 votes for Canada. Seeing as they weren't in Vietnam I guess you could say that yup they were the big winners :)


Maybe you're too young to know and didn't consider history important.... Some friendly help.....

Uhhhh, You are incorrect about Canadians in Viet Nam......

Link: http://http://canadiansinvietnam.com/index.html

If one doesn't know history he will be condemned to repeat it.

Thom Paine
 
The more interesting question to me: if the USA had won the Vietnam War outright, in what way would Asia be different today? In what way would China be different?

I don't think anyone can answer that question just like no one can say what would have happened In Nam if JFK had not been killed.
 
This question was brought up in another thread about Libya which I don't want to derail any further; but I find it interesting. It appears that many people have a different perspective and I find it funny. So please, cast your vote and if you are enclined explain your choice.

I have voted the Vietnamese. The goal of their war was to reunite Vietnam and it was achieved.

Nobody won... the USA left.
 
The Vietnamese people have been fighting to have a country they can call theirs for generations. They have it now, and they're doing well with it. It's a small country and doesn't step on any toes. Who can say it was a bad result?
 
I don't think anyone can answer that question just like no one can say what would have happened In Nam if JFK had not been killed.

true true

just wonder if, in retrospect, we would have been better off had we stuck it out
 
Actually we never lost a battle in Nam and that includes Tet.

Therein lies the problem. Vietnam was not a war of battles, it was a guerrilla war. There really were no battles in the conventional sense, yet our strategy and tactics were all about looking for them. We were as lost in Vietnam as the Redcoats were lost in the colonies; trying to fight a war on our terms and losing it because we failed to adapt.

Sorry, the objective of the "North" was the reunification of Vietnam and the expulsion of the western imperialists. That mission was accomplished; our was not.

We may not have lost a battle, but we clearly lost the war.
 
we did not need that.....just a few low yield nuclear explosions in strategic position

Not even that... just untie the hands of the military... let them go into Cambodia to stop the Ho Chi Minh Trail and bomb the **** out of north Vietnam when ever they wanted to.
 
Therein lies the problem. Vietnam was not a war of battles, it was a guerrilla war. There really were no battles in the conventional sense, yet our strategy and tactics were all about looking for them. We were as lost in Vietnam as the Redcoats were lost in the colonies; trying to fight a war on our terms and losing it because we failed to adapt.

Sorry, the objective of the "North" was the reunification of Vietnam and the expulsion of the western imperialists. That mission was accomplished; our was not.

We may not have lost a battle, but we clearly lost the war.

Vietnam was also lost because the military had their hands tied by not being able to bomb certain targets--in part because the Administration (LBJ) didn't want to take chances of killing Russian advisors to the north Vietnamese. If we were more aggressive with air power then it could have went a lot differently.
 
I would say the North Vietnamese and their allies the USSR and China. Who lost, the South Vietnamese to include the 2 million South Vietnamese who were killed or died in the North Vietnamese re-education camps and fleeing Vietnam by boat. The Cambodians to include 2-3 million Camobidans who were either killed or died at the hands of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge along with another 500,000 Laotians who were also killed by the PL to include the attempted extermination of the Hmong tribe of Northern Laos particularly around the PDJ. I would also include the United and the allied forces in Vietnam.

It was Ho Chi Minh and his North Vietnamese soldiers that put an end to the murderous regime of Pol Pot and his Khymer Rouge.
 
Maybe you're too young to know and didn't consider history important.... Some friendly help.....

Uhhhh, You are incorrect about Canadians in Viet Nam......

Link: http://http://canadiansinvietnam.com/index.html

If one doesn't know history he will be condemned to repeat it.

Thom Paine

Link doesn't work :(
However Canada wasn't in the Vietnam war despite whatever that link might say.
Canada did not fight in the Vietnam War and diplomatically it was "officially non-belligerent".[1] The country's troop deployments to Vietnam were limited to a small number of national forces in 1973 to help enforce the Paris Peace Accords.
Canada and the Vietnam War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you are talking about Canadians who went to the US to join their military and fight, yes that happened but it wasn't Canada doing it, it was individual Canadians fighting for the US military not the Canadian Government.
 
It was Ho Chi Minh and his North Vietnamese soldiers that put an end to the murderous regime of Pol Pot and his Khymer Rouge.

And for that I am very thankful for. Although Ho Chi Minh had been dead for about ten years, he died back in 1969.
 
The US acheived it's goal of making the South militarily self-sufficient, with the premise that the US would continue to supply war materiel as needed. Two years after the US combat troops left Vietnam, the South was defeated, mainly because the Democrat Congress in it's euphoria at having unseated Nixon naturally stabbed America's ally in the back.
That is so much BS.

The Republicans in congress overwhelmingly opposed the US involvement in the Vietnam war.

Nixon was elected to end it fast. And he did.
 
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