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Who won the Vietnam War?

Who won the Vietnam War?

  • The French

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The British

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Americans

    Votes: 6 6.1%
  • The Canadians

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Chinese

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • The Russians

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • The Japanese

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Vietnamese

    Votes: 46 46.5%
  • No one

    Votes: 23 23.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 18 18.2%

  • Total voters
    99

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This question was brought up in another thread about Libya which I don't want to derail any further; but I find it interesting. It appears that many people have a different perspective and I find it funny. So please, cast your vote and if you are enclined explain your choice.

I have voted the Vietnamese. The goal of their war was to reunite Vietnam and it was achieved.
 
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The leadership of the North Vietnamese "Communist" Party won. The Vietnamese people certainly did not win. From 1975 to 1986, not only were there widespread persecutions, but the economy sucked. Doi moi has helped the economy tremendously, but they are still a dictatorship, and treat their people poorly.
 
No one won it.

The US acheived it's goal of making the South militarily self-sufficient, with the premise that the US would continue to supply war materiel as needed. Two years after the US combat troops left Vietnam, the South was defeated, mainly because the Democrat Congress in it's euphoria at having unseated Nixon naturally stabbed America's ally in the back.

The NORTH Vietnamese achieved their goal of enslaving those in the South as didn't manage to escape.

Those that have escaped that I've talked to say the Vietnamese lost the war. Since half the Vietnamese won, half lost, that adds up to zero.

The French haven't won a war since Austerlitz.

The Russians got what they wanted.
 
No one won it.

The US acheived it's goal of making the South militarily self-sufficient, with the premise that the US would continue to supply war materiel as needed. Two years after the US combat troops left Vietnam, the South was defeated, mainly because the Democrat Congress in it's euphoria at having unseated Nixon naturally stabbed America's ally in the back.

The NORTH Vietnamese achieved their goal of enslaving those in the South as didn't manage to escape.

Those that have escaped that I've talked to say the Vietnamese lost the war. Since half the Vietnamese won, half lost, that adds up to zero.

The French haven't won a war since Austerlitz.

The Russians got what they wanted.

The Chinese got what they wanted.
 
The Vietnamese, the North Vietnamese achieved their goal of a unified Vietnam, so they won.
 
I voted other. The American Media won the war.
 
This question was brought up in another thread about Libya which I don't want to derail any further; but I find it interesting. It appears that many people have a different perspective and I find it funny. So please, cast your vote and if you are enclined explain your choice.

I have voted the Vietnamese. The goal of their war was to reunite Vietnam and it was achieved.

The modern American Left won the Vietnam War; vanquishing the United States.
 
The Chinese got what they wanted.

Thats not so true. The North Vietnamese were bigger allies with the USSR than the Chinese, and during the Sino-Soviet split chose to ally with the USSR instead. China invaded North Vietnam in 1979 and was soundly defeated. Of course China helped out North Vietnam during the war because it wanted to get America out and in the early parts of the war the Chinese Soviet relations were pretty good, but since Vietnam became dependant on Russia and not China like North Korea had, it wasn't an ideal end.
 
Then there are other theories...

:shrug: you could say that their allies (the north vietnamese and the chinese) won also; but they actually had to wage another - seperate - campaign, which i consider to be their victory.
 
No one won it.

The US acheived it's goal of making the South militarily self-sufficient, with the premise that the US would continue to supply war materiel as needed. Two years after the US combat troops left Vietnam, the South was defeated, mainly because the Democrat Congress in it's euphoria at having unseated Nixon naturally stabbed America's ally in the back.

The NORTH Vietnamese achieved their goal of enslaving those in the South as didn't manage to escape.

Those that have escaped that I've talked to say the Vietnamese lost the war. Since half the Vietnamese won, half lost, that adds up to zero.

The French haven't won a war since Austerlitz.

The Russians got what they wanted.

LOL love American right wing revisionist thinking, so devoid of truth and fact.
 
:shrug: you could say that their allies (the north vietnamese and the chinese) won also; but they actually had to wage another - seperate - campaign, which i consider to be their victory.

The North Vietnamese did win they are the only ones which achieved a lasting situation which matched their stated war aims, I consider that a real victory. But no I wouldn't consider the Chinese to exactly be beligerants since they only offered material support even though they were also trying to shape the situation in Indochina.
 
chinese and russians had boots on the ground. heck, they narrowly avoided being scooped up in the Son Tay raid.
 
Many of the responses cause me to wonder...... at conservative insitutions of higher learning, do they teach courses in actual History or do they just rename them Rightist Ideology?
 
This question was brought up in another thread about Libya which I don't want to derail any further; but I find it interesting. It appears that many people have a different perspective and I find it funny. So please, cast your vote and if you are enclined explain your choice.

I have voted the Vietnamese. The goal of their war was to reunite Vietnam and it was achieved.

I say no one. It was needless and costly for all.
 
Right, it was liberals and the media who "won" the war and vanquished the United States, not the fact that getting involved in Vietnam IN AND OF ITSELF was a terrible policy mistake and a strategic disaster to begin with. Blame the hippies, the druggies, the media, and the college students, not the McNamaras :roll:
 
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Right, it was liberals and the media who "won" the war and vanquished the United States, not the fact that getting involved in Vietnam IN AND OF ITSELF was a terrible policy mistake and a strategic disaster to begin with. Blame the hippies, the druggies, the media, and the college students, not the McNamaras :roll:

I agree with this without sarcasm. It was the media. And it was america's decision to go without full support. BUT i think if America is in a war, we should never half-ass it. All-in or never go. The majority hippies/media/left lost the debate and the Vietnam action had a lot of support, and when the hippies were unsuccessful, they needed to just support america's decision and not just ruin america's war policy during the war causing more unneeded american deaths and total failure of a war.

I've seen this same agruement liberal people use against bitter conservative's on Obama. He's president, so we should recognize and support him, and not just purposely destroy america and him just because you don't like him to toss-in a candidate you like instead.
 
I agree with this without sarcasm. It was the media. And it was america's decision to go without full support. BUT i think if America is in a war, we should never half-ass it. All-in or never go. The majority hippies/media/left lost the debate and the Vietnam action had a lot of support, and when the hippies were unsuccessful, they needed to just support america's decision and not just ruin america's war policy during the war causing more unneeded american deaths and total failure of a war.

I've seen this same agruement liberal people use against bitter conservative's on Obama. He's president, so we should recognize and support him, and not just purposely destroy america and him just because you don't like him to toss-in a candidate you like instead.

Well, I actually WAS being sarcastic. If a war doesn't have the public's full support behind it, it likely isn't a very good policy decision. In which case the blame lies with the policymakers, not the people who are against the war, because if you fight stupid wars there NECESSARILY WILL BE PEOPLE OUT THERE TO PROTEST IT. Vietnam was a stupid war. The war was lost from the moment JFK decided to become involved. Even if we had "won" the war, we still would have lost because the sacrifice simply would not have been worth it. It was simply a mistake to get involved in the first place, and everything that the policymakers decided to do after that simply compounded their original error.
 
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I would vote that the socialists in the U.S. won.

I agree with this without sarcasm. It was the media. And it was america's decision to go without full support. BUT i think if America is in a war, we should never half-ass it. All-in or never go. The majority hippies/media/left lost the debate and the Vietnam action had a lot of support, and when the hippies were unsuccessful, they needed to just support america's decision and not just ruin america's war policy during the war causing more unneeded american deaths and total failure of a war.

I've seen this same agruement liberal people use against bitter conservative's on Obama. He's president, so we should recognize and support him, and not just purposely destroy america and him just because you don't like him to toss-in a candidate you like instead.

What are people on today?
 
This question was brought up in another thread about Libya which I don't want to derail any further; but I find it interesting. It appears that many people have a different perspective and I find it funny. So please, cast your vote and if you are enclined explain your choice.

I have voted the Vietnamese. The goal of their war was to reunite Vietnam and it was achieved.

A very strange poll. So if North Korea had won in Korean war it would have been a victory of Koreans? Of course, Communists won the war in Vietnam.

And what sense in listing nations? As well Gonduras or Serbia could be in the list.
 
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The vietnam war "COULD" have been won swiftly if the troops were allowed to win it. The war dragged out 7 yrs and killed over 50,000 and maimed so many more because the democrats didnt have the will to allow us to win, because of the left wing cowards in this country who were using nam as an excuse to get high, create the aids virus and be irresponsible.
Nixon got elected and ended the war in three days by ordering B52s to bomb Hanoi...the north surrendered. LBJ could have done the same thing 7 yrs earlier..but he had no testes.
Whichever poster said the Left won and america lost...was spot on.
 
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