View Poll Results: Who won the Vietnam War?

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  • The French

    2 1.28%
  • The British

    1 0.64%
  • The Americans

    9 5.77%
  • The Canadians

    2 1.28%
  • The Chinese

    4 2.56%
  • The Russians

    4 2.56%
  • The Japanese

    0 0%
  • The Vietnamese

    71 45.51%
  • No one

    44 28.21%
  • Other

    19 12.18%
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I guess that's why the North Vietnamese used more Chinese weapons than Soviet weapons.
    It's why the Chinese supplied the Khmer Rouge when the Vietnamese invaded Cambodia.
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    The Communist North, they didn't "reunite" anything......they conquered the South.
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I voted other. The American Media won the war.
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    It's why the Chinese supplied the Khmer Rouge when the Vietnamese invaded Cambodia.
    They were supplying weapons to the Khmer Rouge long before the Viets invaded Cambodia.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    What apdst really means is defensive tactics and operations. In terms of grand strategy, occupying a foreign country can hardly be called a defensive action.
    It's not. The best strategy might have been to have supported their indepence from france in the begining and made a partner, allowing a slow change without the blood shed and expense.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    From a purely military sense, the United States won every battle and every tactical engagement. We didn't win "the war." If you're the New England Patriots and you win every regular season game, that perfect record doesn't mean **** if you lose to the Giants in the SuperBowl. So whether or not the US won in a military sense is irrelevant.
    I think the better metaphor is they dominated the line of scrimmage, but lost the game. The distinction being the Pats winning out is impressive and on the record, but dominating the line of scrimmage in a single game is lost on everyone but the players as its not on the record.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They were supplying weapons to the Khmer Rouge long before the Viets invaded Cambodia.
    Thats true but they were forced to pick a side when Indochina started to turn on itself and our "Domino theory" proved to be inaccruate, I've already explained that Vietnam was closer to Russia since it distrusted China's intentions in the region.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I think the better metaphor is they dominated the line of scrimmage, but lost the game. The distinction being the Pats winning out is impressive and on the record, but dominating the line of scrimmage in a single game is lost on everyone but the players as its not on the record.
    Good one. I tried using a basketball metaphor but realized most people here aren't uber-basketball fans.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    The modern American Left won the Vietnam War; vanquishing the United States.
    Really? What did we win?

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post

    I say no one. It was needless and costly for all.
    Except North Vietnam achieved their goal of a unified nation. I'd say they won.

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