View Poll Results: Who won the Vietnam War?

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  • The French

    2 1.28%
  • The British

    1 0.64%
  • The Americans

    9 5.77%
  • The Canadians

    2 1.28%
  • The Chinese

    4 2.56%
  • The Russians

    4 2.56%
  • The Japanese

    0 0%
  • The Vietnamese

    71 45.51%
  • No one

    44 28.21%
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    19 12.18%
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badfish420 View Post
    first of all this is just history, many vietnamese, like most of the people in other situations looked at communism enthusiastically because of one of two reasons or both, years of imperial colonization and vast poverty. why do you think the south vietnamese terrorists were such a problem for us, because the support for Ho Chi Min was so great. second, yes is it was better than french imperial rule, because even if there is terrible conditions, it was ruled by vietnamese, not foreign powers which is what most vietnamese wanted. thats why the communist movement could have also been described as a nationalist movement. they wanted to unite north and south and govern themselves not an imperial power or a west-backed stooge.
    No one with any knowledge would look at Communism "enthusiastically". The Vietnamese people might not have been politically sophisticated at the time but they were not stupid. Have you ever talked with any Vietnamese people from that period?

    The Vietnamese people would have preferred a local mass murderer rather than be ruled by the French? I know some people have no use for the French, but that's going a little too far.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badfish420 View Post
    look we can talk all day about who killed more but either way the commie brutes and the american backed fascists were both terrible regimes. its not like the communists were any better or worse, the point is it wasnt our fight and we got involved, which many claim is one of the reasons why the victors were so brutal when they rolled into saigon and imposed their rule, if we had left them to self determine from the time the french were ousted it could have turned out differently.
    The Communists were the worst scourge of the past century, moreso than the Nazis or the Fascists. And the fascists, by the way, were not in Vietnam,.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Well, yeah. If Vietnam would have gone on to become a favorite vacation destination or an art culture capital the US could be said to have won.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Well, yeah. If Vietnam would have gone on to become a favorite vacation destination or an art culture capital the US could be said to have won.
    that could happen yet.

    If Saigon had been renamed "Nixontown" or perhaps "Johnsonville" instead of HoChiMinh City, then that would have been an indication that the US won.
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The Communists were the worst scourge of the past century, moreso than the Nazis or the Fascists. And the fascists, by the way, were not in Vietnam,.
    Did you know we killed 2 million Vietnamese in their own country?
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    that could happen yet.

    If Saigon had been renamed "Nixontown" or perhaps "Johnsonville" instead of HoChiMinh City, then that would have been an indication that the US won.
    Or Eisenhower City. After all, Ike was the first to put boots on the ground.
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Or Eisenhower City. After all, Ike was the first to put boots on the ground.
    I like that. Ikeville. We liked Ike in the US, probably not so much in Vietnam.
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Did you know we killed 2 million Vietnamese in their own country?
    No, I didn't know that. Do you have a link??

    Do you know how many were killed by the Communist movement between 1917 and 1990?.

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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, I didn't know that. Do you have a link??

    Do you know how many were killed by the Communist movement between 1917 and 1990?.
    I don't think anyone really knows how many Vietnamese were killed in the non war. Two million is estimate I've heard for the number of Cambodians who perished at the hands of the Khymer Rouge before the Vietnamese took out Pol Pot.
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    Re: Who won the Vietnam War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, I didn't know that. Do you have a link??

    Do you know how many were killed by the Communist movement between 1917 and 1990?.
    Vietnam War casualties - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So they killed more than we did................Do you feel better about that?
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