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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Oh, wait, it's far more fun to force other people to pay for what you want, isn't it?
    That's what the cable companies did.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think it's the "best", but PBS is the only station that shows Nova programs anymore. **** you Discover Channel!
    Man Discovery is **** now...remember when they would show cool stuff like Walking with Dinosaurs? That stuff was da ****.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    The Discovery channel has become insulting, lowbrow media. Gold Rush, Myth Busters, Pawn Dicks (or whatever it is), American Loggers, Shark Week...

    All sensational stuff, and nothing can be learned from a lot of it. Kudos for Planet Earth, though.
    Sometimes it is like reading David McCullough. It's relaxing, it does not take much effort, everyone likes it....but at the end of the day, I always return to other scholars.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    The Discovery channel has become insulting, lowbrow media. Gold Rush, Myth Busters, Pawn Dicks (or whatever it is), American Loggers, Shark Week...

    All sensational stuff, and nothing can be learned from a lot of it. Kudos for Planet Earth, though.
    Myth Busters is convenient. Look at all the gun grabbing idiots who were wetting their pants at the thought that not denying Americans their Constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms just because they boarded an airplane would have prevented 9-11. The lame argument of the gun grabbers was that a itty bitty bullet could cause explosive decompression and kill everyone on the aircraft.

    Pointing to the Aloha Airlines Convertible accident, in which the top of the plane ripped off, and killed only one unsecured stewardess, doesn't sway them.

    But if the idiots are pointed to the Myth Busters episode where they try to create explosive decompression, the idiot gun grabbers shut up and go away for a while.

    I say Myth Busters is essential anti-idiot medicine. PBS never did anything as useful as that.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So....we're going back nearly half a century to justify this outrage our we? How much did we spend on the military in that time? Social security? Medicade/medicare? ****, in 50 years we've spent a ton more on well more projects than NPR. This is as stupid as an argument can get; you want to aggregate over decades and compare to yearly spending? Seriously? We pissed through over 40 years of NPR funding in a few days in Libya, but NPR is what's going to make my children broke? Seriously? This is your argument? You need to learn to think before you post.
    Then again, you could start a thread on the wisdom of taking money from taxpayers to fund whatever program bugs you. And if your pet peeve is a program in violation of the Constitution, as is PBS and NPR, Mayor Snorkum will stand with you in opposition. But claiming that other programs cost more and are more harmful to the budget than PBS and NPR misses the point that PBS and NPR are illegally funded, and your argument does not alter that fact in anyway.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's a dumb dumb dumb dumb statement. We're bankrupt now BECAUSE WE DON'T CUT THE BIG STUFF.
    We're going to remain bankrupt because we can't cut ANYTHING. Our budget crisis will fade when only one thing happens:

    Spending is brought inside the Constitution. And that means cutting everything we can cut when we can cut it, if it's dangling outside the protection of the Constitution.

    That we also must explore spending inside the Constitution and cut that as well, goes without saying. But there's no point in whining about the big unconstitutional stuff, like social security, education, welfare, and Obamacare, if you're not willing to cut the little stuff.

    Cut NPR, do it. THen what? Are we really any closer? Are we going to say "well we cut NPR, so I guess we can go after the military now"?
    The military budget is mostly Constitutional and requires a different approach. It requires that the public elect presidents who will use the military to serve only America's interests, not their own short-sighted political needs. In a word, it requires a mature public. A mature public won't whine for NPR, if they want it, they'll contribute their own money for it.

    But other than that, yes, cutting NPR successfully allows those with the itty-bitty nose-hair clippers to buy something bigger, like toe-nail clippers, and maybe, eventually, they'll be able to afford a 125 horsepower self-propelled motorized hedge row trimmer or maybe even a genuine corn harvester to trim the federal budget.

    but all they have right now are nose hair trimmers.

    This is a retarded deflection topic and nothing moe, i takes focus away from where it should be. And even if you cut NPR...so what? You think that money will be saved? You didn't change any dynamics, you didn't restrict government. They'll just spend that money elsewhere.
    This is so sad. Mayor Snorkum knows from your posts that you do possess the ability to present logical arguments. Why are you not doing so now?

    Seriously, if you want to gain control of the government, you have to use your brain! We can not let the government play our collective ADD against us anymore. We have to focus, we have to pay attention, we must refuse to be taken in by deflection topics. Otherwise, you're pissing in the wind. You're just going to spin your wheels, get us nowhere other than further in debt. Learn to think![/QUOTE]

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Myth Busters is convenient. Look at all the gun grabbing idiots who were wetting their pants at the thought that not denying Americans their Constitutionally guaranteed right to keep and bear arms just because they boarded an airplane would have prevented 9-11. The lame argument of the gun grabbers was that a itty bitty bullet could cause explosive decompression and kill everyone on the aircraft.

    Pointing to the Aloha Airlines Convertible accident, in which the top of the plane ripped off, and killed only one unsecured stewardess, doesn't sway them.

    But if the idiots are pointed to the Myth Busters episode where they try to create explosive decompression, the idiot gun grabbers shut up and go away for a while.

    I say Myth Busters is essential anti-idiot medicine. PBS never did anything as useful as that.
    I saw them drive a car off a cliff recently to see if it would explode...

    And they built a 'rocket,' which any idiot knew wouldn't fly, to try to reproduce a claim that a guy blasted himself up high and landed safely a couple hundred years ago, or some such nonsense. So, they wanted to bust an event that couldn't have happened anyway. But it was sensational!
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's what the cable companies did.
    No... No, they didn't. No one forces you to pay the cable companies a dime. CPB is funded by money taken from you by threat of force against your liberty at the point of a gun.

    Quite a substantial difference, and enough to nullify your comparison.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK View Post
    No... No, they didn't. No one forces you to pay the cable companies a dime. CPB is funded by money taken from you by threat of force against your liberty at the point of a gun.

    Quite a substantial difference, and enough to nullify your comparison.
    Actually, no. The cable companies lobbied Congress and got some very nice laws. One of which eliminates local competition. Each city/county has essentially 1 Cable company. You can do other things like Dish; but it's either Cable (for example, where I live it's only Comcast), Dish, or attenna. Additionally, within the laws passed by Congress for the cable companies is one which prevents the offering of ala cart. Everything becomes prepackaged. So you have to pay for channels you may not watch. I have Oxygen which I have to pay for, never watched it. I can't, for instance, call up Comcast and say "I just want the local channels, Cartoon Network, and Comedy Central". I have to pay for well more channels than I would buy. If there was true free market going on here where I would have 3 or more cable companies to choose from with the option of ala cart programming, my cable bills would be a lot lower and a lot of those crappy channels would go under.

    NPR may recieve tax payer money, but if I want cable, I am also forced to subsidize dozens of other channels I will never watch.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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