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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Except Fox News is evidently MUCH more biased than NPR, given the numbers I just cited. They are actively promoting a certain narrative and an agenda, and their journalistic standards are in the gutter like MSNBC. I wouldn't mind having taxpayer money funding a paper like the Wall Street Journal, which leans conservative but is still professional in how it conducts its journalism.

    Then you should be demanding that the federal government cease all financial aid to Fox News, if you're going to be consistent.

    Oh, wait, Fox News doesn't get subsidies....

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't think I made any mention in my post about funding. That's a completely separate issue from what I was talking about.
    Perhaps your time could be well spent by learning the topics of the threads you post on?

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Perhaps your time could be well spent by learning the topics of the threads you post on?
    I was talking about a separate but related issue, which is that of NPR's bias. The issue of their funding is another matter, but I voted "disagree" in the poll.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Then you should be demanding that the federal government cease all financial aid to Fox News, if you're going to be consistent.

    Oh, wait, Fox News doesn't get subsidies....
    Actually my consistency has nothing to do with Fox News.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    I actually like PBS. It's a great network, and I have learned a lot from watching it... My gran sends them money all the time too.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I was talking about a separate but related issue, which is that of NPR's bias. The issue of their funding is another matter, but I voted "disagree" in the poll.
    They can have all the bias they can dish out. As soon as they're cut off from taxpayer funding. Until that time, NPR should be the only radio network subject to the "Fairness Doctrine".

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    I love PBS, but in the end the funding must go, and look it doesn't matter because they can generate their own revenue.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

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    The journey of 14 trillion miles begins with the first step.....saying we shouldnt take the first step because its just a small step...........is why the journey is 14 trillion miles long and growing.
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    I'm not saying that we shouldn't take the first step. I'm saying the first step shouldn't be us walking in place.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    I love PBS, but in the end the funding must go, and look it doesn't matter because they can generate their own revenue.
    OK, I have a serious question. People are saying PBS, NPR paid by taxpaers, it should all just be cut. OK, I get that. Now let's go into another related topic, Cable TV. It is against the law to have ala carte options, you know that? The Cable industry gave lots in donations to get that law passed (BTW, here is one of the real problems, in case anyone wants to quit being distracted by stupid stuff like NPR) and Congress did. That's why we have to pay for programming we don't want. Ever wonder why there's 200+ channels? Think 200+ channels can support themselves? They're subsidized via cable packages because the companies make more when they can get more channels paid for. I don't tend to watch Oxygen, but I got it because it is illegal to not have it. Or rather, it's illegal to offer me the option to not have it.

    Additionally, the cable lobby successfully got other laws such as competition laws in place where each company has essentially a list of cities it has. This limits competition. It's why I'm Comradcast. I can do Dish network, but there really is very little competition amongst the cable/internet providers. All this is backed by law, law which was paid for by the lobbiest groups. It's a great deal for them, seriously these lobbiests can spend a few million and get billions in return. What does all this mean? It's essentially State sponsored local monopoly/oligopoly with no choice. We can't really choose the channels, we cannot have a lot of choice in providers. This means increased costs to ourselves and other things such as price gouging and price fixing.

    So here we have NPR, piss ant little thing getting funding. Sure we should cut it. But it's not going to do anything, and I even doubt that money would be saved. We'd probably just spend it elsewhere regardless. And then we have other things, the mixing of State and private sector to create a corporate model of goverment/market. Pay enough Congressmen, get any law you want, particualarly that which is benefitial. So shouldn't we also be outraged by our lack of choice and proper competition in the cable/internet arena? I mean, we're going after NPR, and here we have actual law and regulation which prevents US from having proper consumer say in the market place. It's essentially a big ass subsidy to the cable industry because we have to pay higher prices for all the packaging. Why can't you just buy Fox? Or Cartoon Network? Or Comedy Central? When you order cable why can't there be 3-4 providers in your community? I mean besides the actual law which makes all this illegal, this is more a generalized case.

    We want to get pissy over NPR, and yes let's cut it; but don't pretend that by doing so you're making an ounce of difference. Because the real problem is improper government action and regulation and THAT is not being addressed by this little NPR deflection.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I'd support that. It's slash and burn time. The trouble is nobody in Washington is serious about making cuts, so what you call tickytack might be the only cuts we can make.
    No, its not. Our elected officials are not serious about budget cuts, nor is most of the population. If they were, there would have been a serious discussion about the cost of Libya. Cutting NPR only pays for 5 cruise missiles.....

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