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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Right, the world view of political correctness taking precedent over standard conservative vs. liberal fare. I am with you there. I would say, however, that much of it also highlighted the left-wing approach of NPR in comparison with any sort of doctrinaire that the center or political right would have. Perhaps not some sort of "seething hatred", but vastly different world view.
    I can see why recent incidents (specifically the Williams firing and the Schiller video from O'Keefe) could perhaps be viewed as an indictment of the culture of NPR execs. However, I think the fairest way to judge is to look at NPR's content itself, rather than focusing on what management is up to. Given statistics such as Dem-Rep approval-disapproval differentials, it's apparent to me that NPR is pretty much as unbiased as it is possible for any major media outlet to be. I don't deny that a slight liberal bias exists.

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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Except the important ones are where most of the gridlock occurs. Until one has enough pull, it is the smaller issues that are easier to deal with than the larger ones. Tackling the important issues is, well, important, but it is also usually filled with defeat...especially when the country has a difficulty in identifying what needs to be reduced and what needs to be saved from cuts. Then figuring out how much, or if you are to reform one issue, how to do so, can cause a party split, and there goes the political capital. Recall 2004-2005 for another instance. The other party can stand to gain, and in this case, the other party is much in favor of the past few years status-quo.

    If you are looking for massive change, I envy you. I strictly believe we haven't in us yet to agree in terms of massive budget reductions and reform of major programs. In short, the smaller issues may be most of what you are looking at what political capital can accomplish, and perhaps they can add up decently.
    I am looking for massive change, but in the long term. Privatization of some things, direct investment on behalf of each citizen instead of Social Security, etc. Things that will put us back into the non-debtor nation category in the reasonably near future.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I can see why recent incidents (specifically the Williams firing and the Schiller video from O'Keefe) could perhaps be viewed as an indictment of the culture of NPR execs. However, I think the fairest way to judge is to look at NPR's content itself, rather than focusing on what management is up to. Given statistics such as Dem-Rep approval-disapproval differentials, it's apparent to me that NPR is pretty much as unbiased as it is possible for any major media outlet to be. I don't deny that a slight liberal bias exists.


    Wherever you got that from is totally wrong....NPR is all liberal all the time and theres no way that it should be taxpayer funded in anyform...the lionshare of its revenue is from ultra liberal sources...let them pick up the taxpayer portion and be as liberal as they want but not on the dime of people that totally disagree with them.
    It would be like the govt giving YOUR money to foxnews...you would love that right

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    After stopping the bleeding, we have to clean the edges of the wound prior to dealing with the wound. Deal with the smaller things first and the larger ones are easier to see, and consequently, to handle effectively.
    Okay, I agree we should stop the bleeding first, but right now we're a long way from that.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Wherever you got that from is totally wrong.
    Can you back up your assertions with any proof? Pew Research is one of the more respected institutions out there. You're going to have to do better than making claims without backing them up with some evidence. Saying "you're wrong, I'm right" doesn't really mean anything now, does it?

    NPR is all liberal all the time and theres no way that it should be taxpayer funded in anyform
    Wonder why three times more Republicans have a favorable view of it than unfavorable then.

    It would be like the govt giving YOUR money to foxnews...you would love that right
    Except Fox News is evidently MUCH more biased than NPR, given the numbers I just cited. They are actively promoting a certain narrative and an agenda, and their journalistic standards are in the gutter like MSNBC. I wouldn't mind having taxpayer money funding a paper like the Wall Street Journal, which leans conservative but is still professional in how it conducts its journalism.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    So kill the National Park Service, NASA, OSHA and many others?
    Lose NASA, but keep Nat'l Parks Service and OSHA, they serve a purpose.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I can see why recent incidents (specifically the Williams firing and the Schiller video from O'Keefe) could perhaps be viewed as an indictment of the culture of NPR execs. However, I think the fairest way to judge is to look at NPR's content itself, rather than focusing on what management is up to. Given statistics such as Dem-Rep approval-disapproval differentials, it's apparent to me that NPR is pretty much as unbiased as it is possible for any major media outlet to be. I don't deny that a slight liberal bias exists.
    Why bother with discussing the merits of content when the merits of taxpayer financing are independent of content, and the Constitution doesn't support taxpayer funding?

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Lose NASA, but keep Nat'l Parks Service and OSHA, they serve a purpose.
    So, is there any particular reason you're labelling yourself as a Libertarian?

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    No.

    Because the small battles, like NPR, are meaningless financially.
    No.

    Every dime helps.

    And the ideological issues are the same regardless of the dollar amount involved, and the Left MUST LOSE this ideological battle, one budget line at a time if that's what's necessary, if the United States is going to gain fiscal solvency and constitutionality.

    As for picking battles, the Battle of the Greedy Leftist RAdio Barons is incredibly important. The Left has NO ammunition here, no valid justification for the continued existence of taxpayer funding for NPR when the vast bulk of the nation doesn't listen to it, when it caters to the wealthy, when the taxpayers are either unemployed or facing doubled gasoline prices. The people want this debate ended, along with NPR, so the Congress can focus on other issues, such as drilling on the US Continental Shelves, wondering why the hell we've got three wars on the stove now, and if President Obama's golf score is improving what with all the practice he's getting on the taxpayer dollar.

    Finally, Mayor Snorkum could list 100 programs with budgets of a size with NPR's that can be axed with only special interest groups to whine about their loss. When Obama and the Democrats can't find but 4 gigabucks to cut out of a 4 terabuck budget, they need all the help real Americans can give them in pointing out what's not necessary, what's not wanted, and most importantly of all, what's not Constitutional and hence illegal in the US budget.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Why bother with discussing the merits of content when the merits of taxpayer financing are independent of content, and the Constitution doesn't support taxpayer funding?
    I don't think I made any mention in my post about funding. That's a completely separate issue from what I was talking about.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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