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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    So kill the National Park Service, NASA, OSHA and many others?
    Yep.

    States have the authority to regulate workplace safety, the Congress does not.

    NASA services some military functions and those may remain, the rest is up to the states or private investors. Given that NASA has destroyed the manned space program, what does the country have to lose by losing NASA? NADA.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Yet what's essential is subjective. For example, I value the post office, and many businesses rely on it. I'd vote to save it. Same with something like Title X. I see its value, and from my limited reading about it, there's a good argument that it actually saves money based on the value it creates. Is cutting it really a step in the right direction?

    That's what I mean about these political battles. We're spending political capital anyway. Basically, we're wasting our ammo on field mice when there's a herd of buffalo coming over the hill.

    If the fire power to kill rodents doesn't exist, there's no way the old buffalo is going down.

    But, kill the field mice in their millions and discover how to poison the buffalo, too.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    I was watching a West Wing episode from 1999 yesterday and it was pretty amazing because it was dealing with lots of budget cut issues. The Republicans' main focus in the episode was the funding of PBS and the NEA. Obviously Sorkin is somewhat biased on this point, but the response was pretty good. Paraphrase: "The NEA costs taxpayers 39c per year and is the size of Sweden's. And you all complain constantly about the amount of sex and violence in video games, and yet you want to cut Sesame Street?"

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    I was floored by the comments from the NPR head regarding the firing of Juan Williams. She has such a seething hatred of conservatives it was frightening. How could such a person be in charge of an organization which by all rights should be sorta moderate? I'm concerned about people that are so set in their beliefs that they just can't even accept the other side as friends or even relatives. I think it's incredible childish and small.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by tryreading View Post
    So kill the National Park Service, NASA, OSHA and many others?
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

    The Congress could try doing that since the privately owned company illegally doing it now isn't doing such a swell job.

    To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;


    These go together. Why hasn't Congress authorized privateers to fix the pirates-in-a-dinghy problem?

    Because it's too busy doing those things it's not supposed to do instead. Some examples of this are:

    NPR
    NEA
    Dept of Education
    Dept of Energy
    Dept of Labor
    Welfare
    Social Security
    etc etc etc.
    Well, we could argue about what the Constitution allows, as far as latitude beyond the numerated responsibilities. But at least you named specific programs, many large enough to make a difference in the budget. Of course, your representatives won't tackle them anytime soon.
    Do not write in this space!

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I was floored by the comments from the NPR head regarding the firing of Juan Williams. She has such a seething hatred of conservatives it was frightening. How could such a person be in charge of an organization which by all rights should be sorta moderate? I'm concerned about people that are so set in their beliefs that they just can't even accept the other side as friends or even relatives. I think it's incredible childish and small.
    Could you refresh my memory as to what those comments were that expressed seething hatred of conservatives? IIRC, the whole Juan Williams incident had little to do with conservatives and more to do with Juan's stupid comments and liberal PC bull**** on the part of the people who fired him.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Could you refresh my memory as to what those comments were that expressed seething hatred of conservatives? IIRC, the whole Juan Williams incident had little to do with conservatives and more to do with Juan's stupid comments and liberal PC bull**** on the part of the people who fired him.
    He was fired for saying that he would be nervous if a group of Musim men got on the plane.

    Here's a good representation of people like the head of the NPR and all other liberals!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyCdfOXvec

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    He was fired for saying that he would be nervous if a group of Musim men got on the plane.

    Here's a good representation of people like the head of the NPR and all other liberals!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAyCdfOXvec
    I know what got him fired. That has literally NOTHING to do with conservatives. Juan Williams is a liberal. Voicing concerns about men in Islamic garb on a plane is neither a "liberal" nor "conservative" position. And for the record many liberals (including those on this forum) are not in favor of intervention in Libya. You don't know most liberals, you don't know if the head of NPR supported Libyan intervention, and you definitely don't know if the video is a "good representation of all liberals." To make such an assumption is moronic.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I know what got him fired. That has literally NOTHING to do with conservatives. Juan Williams is a liberal. Voicing concerns about men in Islamic garb on a plane is neither a "liberal" nor "conservative" position. And for the record many liberals (including those on this forum) are not in favor of intervention in Libya. You don't know most liberals, you don't know if the head of NPR supported Libyan intervention, and you definitely don't know if the video is a "good representation of all liberals." To make such an assumption is moronic.
    It's EXACTLY a good representation of ALL liberals - dumb whiny children! The story wasn't about Juan Williams being fired. The story was about THE WAY he was fired - by that whiny childish liberal head of NPR.

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