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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I gotta agree with Mr. Badmutha here, Ikari. It's a pretty cut and dry situation from the libertarian perspective. Who cares what NPr is doing? They're funded by taxpayer dollars, they're nonessential, and we're broke. It's a no-brainer. Cut them.

    And I say this as a fan of NPR.
    Shouldn't utility trump ideology sometimes? That kind of "no-brainer" checklist... If something is working, why mess that up? What about the "doing the best job possible" perspective?

    Also, I'd have to disagree with the essentialness. In the age of pundits and entertainment news, an actual source of information that doesn't have a financial stake in promoting a viewpoint is pretty essential.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Shouldn't utility trump ideology sometimes? That kind of "no-brainer" checklist... If something is working, why mess that up? What about the "doing the best job possible" perspective?

    Also, I'd have to disagree with the essentialness. In the age of pundits and entertainment news, an actual source of information that doesn't have a financial stake in promoting a viewpoint is pretty essential.
    Has no financial stake? Then what are we arguing about? NPR has no financial stake in keeping the government happy.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Has no financial stake? Then what are we arguing about? NPR has no financial stake in keeping the government happy.
    One really has to wonder what we're arguing about. This is a zero issue. Given the size and scope of our current government and its policies, axing NPR and PBS will do nothing to solve any of our problems or make even a noticeable difference in the actual dynamics of the system. I think it's very pointless at this stage to argue over cutting NPR and PBS because there are so many other, greater problems that have to be addressed before addressing NPR and PBS will have any measurable affect.

    Also, I think Pashendale brings up a good point. The press is a tool of the People by which they can accurately gauge the activities and intent of government so that we may better control it. Our press is broken. Now is the real solution government sponsored media? No, I don't think that will do anything. It has a possibility of it, but you would need to be very careful in how you set the system up to ensure that way. The better method would be if we would stop consuming this crappy, dishonest method of entertainment news we've currently adopted. It does not behoove us to allow our press to act improperly towards their duties to us.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    Sure, let us go ahead and de-fund that which provides the highest educational content on television and increase funding for oh.....say....... Corporate Welfare, so that McDonald's can say......oh......I don't know......... study the effects of serving Chicken McNuggets to swamp rats in Mississippi, or something equally as ludicrous.
    Crazy idea here......but if you support DNC TV/RADIO.....try using your wallet for once....mine needs a break....thanks!

    Typically, American these days. I'm not surprised by the vote. But, hey - why not. We've been "de-funding" our school systems across the county for decades now - why not take out PBS while we're at it.



    Maybe we can use the savings to bring back old episodes of Bonanza and run it in a prime-time slot. I'm sure that's a good replacement for PBS.
    Im sure the 12 people that watch PBS and 7 people that listen to NPR will find a way to survive....somehow....
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    One really has to wonder what we're arguing about.
    Indeed....anyone with one Libertarian bone in their body......would support cutting all funding to DNC TV/RADIO......yesterday.

    The journey of 14 Trillion miles begins with the first step.....and Democrats and Faux Libertarians cant get past Cowboy Poetry Contests nor DNC TV.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This has nothing to do with balancing the budget. It is to punish NPR for having a mostly neutral (not conservative) news outlook.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    In common sense terms-Liberal
    So liberal essentially means anything that's not conservative. Got it. Pretty exclusive club yall got goin down there.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    In common sense terms-Liberal
    By not conservative, options include centrist, moderate, libertarian, liberal, fascist, socialist, communist, constitutionalist, theocratic, etc. I find it interesting that you have such a one or the other view.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Indeed....anyone with one Libertarian bone in their body......would support cutting all funding to DNC TV/RADIO......yesterday.

    The journey of 14 Trillion miles begins with the first step.....and Democrats and Faux Libertarians cant get past Cowboy Poetry Contests nor DNC TV.
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    Oh there you go again, trying to insult my political lean with your predetermined stereotypes on what I'm supposed to feel and how I'm supposed to act. Sorry, you ain't god. I'm a realist, I want change that changes things. I want to bring the government under control, limit its actions, decrease its spending. But those must be done in real terms. Cutting something which is fractions of a percent is not going to do anything to solve the problem. The best it can do is provide distraction from the other problems which need to be addressed. I'll cut NPR when NPR will change something. It will be nice if we get to that point. Till then, trillions on a war and you want to moan about one molecule of water in the sea.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    So liberal essentially means anything that's not conservative. Got it. Pretty exclusive club yall got goin down there.
    NPR has a fairly liberal lean. And is f'n boring!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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