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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I don't dispute that I will not tangibly benefit from everything, I am saying usually there are good reasons to support things that you don't explicitly receive a benefit from. For example, I personally support subisidies to education, and roads, and law enforcement because I believe that the government subsidizing these areas leads to an increase in efficiency. Education has a positive externalities, education is worth more than its value on the market, thus it is more efficient for the government to subsidize this. Roads are a natural monopoly, it is inefficient to have competing roads to the same location. Law enforcement goes within the natural sphere of government, since it naturally must be derived from something with the authority to create and enforce laws. I do not see any of these types of reasons to support a public tv or radio station.
    It's a valuable service that wouldn't do well in the marketplace because most of what sells currently is drek.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, the profitability issues stemmed from the fact that they cost more than the market would bear. That is not the same thing as a cost which exceeds the benefit, and precisely why some services must be either be provided by or assisted by the government -- because we can't afford to leave them to the untender mercies of the marketplace.



    Wow, you get a schedule full of educational programming, BBC world news and 2 different documentaries on your local news channels?
    I would not call sesame street and arthur educational programming. Your local news channels (like channel 4, or channel 9) have a morning news show, then a few kids shows, than your soap operas, dr.phil, etc, then you have the evening news, the national news, then something like 60 minutes, then you have primetime tv shows, gameshows, etc, then you have the late local news, then you have a late show, then the late late show. Much better in my opinion.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I would not call sesame street and arthur educational programming. Your local news channels (like channel 4, or channel 9) have a morning news show, then a few kids shows, than your soap operas, dr.phil, etc, then you have the evening news, the national news, then something like 60 minutes, then you have primetime tv shows, gameshows, etc, then you have the late local news, then you have a late show, then the late late show. Much better in my opinion.
    This is exactly why educational television should not be forced to compete with the open marketplace. Thank you for proving my point.

    Soap operas . . . game shows . . .

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    This is exactly why educational television should not be forced to compete with the open marketplace. Thank you for proving my point.

    Soap operas . . . game shows . . .

    That was my local news channels, there are several specialty channels you can get. Nick, cartoon network, disney,... You want something educational there are several viarants of discovery, national geographic, the history channel. If you want headline news there are numerous options. Seriously, whatever you want there are probobly specialty channels out there.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Yeah, if can afford satellite or cable television there's a lot of variety out there.

    I've yet to see anything which serves as a suitable replacement for PBS, and nothing that comes anywhere near that ballpark is going to be on the public airwaves.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Yeah, if can afford satellite or cable television there's a lot of variety out there.

    I've yet to see anything which serves as a suitable replacement for PBS, and nothing that comes anywhere near that ballpark is going to be on the public airwaves.
    Fine. You like NPR/PBS. So do I.

    So what's stopping them from being entirely funded by the private sector. Nothing would have to change. They could have their pledge drives, and so on.

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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

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    Your contending the majority of Americas want Subprime Single Payer Health Care and support Amnesty.........

    .......The Majority of Americans had a chance to elect liberals who would do these things........

    ......they declined......in the largest political landslide in US History.....
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    I'm suggesting, and even providing polls that show Americans support the PUBLIC OPTION. Did I say anything about single payer? Poll after poll proves it. And I'm suggesting, and providing polls that show Americans support the DREAM ACt, which is not amnesty. I've provided polls. You have given your opinion. See the difference? Prove them wrong.


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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK View Post
    Fine. You like NPR/PBS. So do I.

    So what's stopping them from being entirely funded by the private sector. Nothing would have to change. They could have their pledge drives, and so on.
    For one thing, I don't see anything broken with the public broadcasting system, and "if it ain't broke..."

    Aside from that, I've been having trouble following exactly how money gets from the government (Federal and state) to public broadcasters, and how much of an impact on their function a loss of government dollars would represent. Since I can't understand it as precisely as I'd like, I can't say intelligent things like, "Well, I suppose we could cut funding X% and it would require only Y hours of additional fundraising or a Z% reduction in programming."

    Since I can't do that, I'm sticking with the fact that it does what it is supposed to do, and as such should be left the heck alone.
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrickt View Post
    Of course. Partisan political outlets should be subsidized by taxpayers. Let George Soros do it.
    He already gives money to them, along with many other Americans.. do you?
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    Re: De-fund NPR and PBS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Do you agree or disagree that we need to stop giving federal $$ to NPR and PBS? I'd like someone who disagree with the defunding, to give some good reasons why the taxpayers should be forced to give money to a radio and TV station.

    Thank you.
    I think it is vital to have a public broadcaster for the good of the public and public service.

    And like it or not the debate in the US is not about funding, it is an ideological fantatism by the right who see PBS/NPR as a "liberal" voice. Fact is PBS/NPR get next to nothing from the public purse as it is, and the crap that the GOP pushed through in the House did not save a single dime, since the money they took from PBS/NPR was just diverted to private owned stations..
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