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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I understand that having access can increase life expectancy, but the point is that UHC doesn't automatically increase life expectancy when there are other factors in play.

    Medical care is as large an influence as you may believe it to be.
    i didn't say it automatically did.....but the fact that other nations with access to healthcare have greater life expectancies is something to consider.

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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i didn't say it automatically did.....but the fact that other nations with access to healthcare have greater life expectancies is something to consider.
    You could squarely lay that on their racial homogeneity, cultural practices and rate of immigration from 3rd world nations.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You could squarely lay that on their racial homogeneity, cultural practices and rate of immigration from 3rd world nations.
    you could, but germany, england and france have large immigrant populations. and even cuba is ahead of us.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You could squarely lay that on their racial homogeneity, cultural practices and rate of immigration from 3rd world nations.
    Well - statistically speaking. In the US those with access to adequate healthcare (via insurance) or who are affluent enough to afford the overall healthy lifestyle have a longer life-span than someone born into poverty - those born into poverty, even if they move out of 'poverty' are still negatively effected and their life spans cut short.

    Also - what's interesting these days is that the poor are often more likely to be obese. Obesity, however, 200 years ago use to be more common among the affluent. You had to be rich to afford the foods that made you plump - the poor had a leaner diet, albeit not necessarily healthier if it lacked certain things. Now, however, processed foods and cheap unhealthy foods have tipped that scale dramatically. It costs more to eat a natural or healthy diet, and costs less to consume empty calories.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Government administered or managed healthcare is essential for moving ahead into the future. If you control people's health, you control their lives. It is an indispensable tool in social engineering and population revisions. Even those against it will see the benefit when everything is in full swing. I don't think Mr. Obama's plan is ill-conceived and mostly unworkable but it is a tiny step in the right direction.

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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    With all due respect, you are quite wrong....have you read it?



    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Holy ****, did you not understand what he said, or are you intentionally being misleading. Conyers and Kucinich discussed opposing the bill to fight for single payer, which they(and the website you link to) support, but decided to support the bill, largely for getting rid of pre-existing conditions as a reason to deny coverage.

    They(meaning Conyers and Kucinich) will attempt to use the bill as a platform to work towards single payer, but that is not what the bill was designed as. It is also not a direct step towards single payer, and in fact, as he comments, grows the private insurance industry(the opposite of single payer). He is plotting the strategy for his goal moving forward, not saying that the bill was planned as a stepping stone.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Recently, Rep. Conyers admitted that Obamacare was a platform to a single payer system (despite claims to the contrary during the debate).



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    In a search on the net, there are definitely people who advocate and support it in the US.

    Would you like to see single payer health care in the US?
    It's the only way we're ever going to control medical costs and lift the burden of providing health care from the employers. It's way past time for the US to join the civilized world and provide universal medical care to every citizen of this great country.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    With all due respect, you are quite wrong....have you read it?
    Yes, that is how I know what is being said.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    You should read it again, it contains the very "platform" they speak of

    The Bill will make it impossible for "Private" insurers to exist...it's all right there to see in the Bill

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    Yes, that is how I know what is being said.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    You should read it again, it contains the very "platform" they speak of

    The Bill will make it impossible for "Private" insurers to exist...it's all right there to see in the Bill
    The "platform" of which he speaks is his strategy going forward, not what the bill was intended as.
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