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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Let me ask you this, if the government said you have the right to speak out politically, but only through one of our sponsored websites...would you have the right to free speech?
    Using your rather wierd analogy terms, we would be providing more opportunity for everyone to free speech, whereas the current system limits free speect to only those that have the big bucks.

    I prefer free speech for all of we the people.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Because people tend to lump, solely medical related problems with personal life style problems and call it "poorer rated health care system."

    Fat people don't get fat because they have ****ty medical care, they get fat because they eat to much food, but their problems from being to fat, are medical in nature.
    Perhaps you should start your own rating system. For myself, I am going with the system that provides the best care for the most people at the lowest cost. Our current system has become unafforable not only for poor people but for much of the middle class. Its time to walk into the 21st century with the rest of the first world nations.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Using your rather wierd analogy terms, we would be providing more opportunity for everyone to free speech, whereas the current system limits free speect to only those that have the big bucks.

    I prefer free speech for all of we the people.
    Is it free speech? If the government controls the how, who, when, what and where?
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Perhaps you should start your own rating system. For myself, I am going with the system that provides the best care for the most people at the lowest cost. Our current system has become unafforable not only for poor people but for much of the middle class. Its time to walk into the 21st century with the rest of the first world nations.
    Except that's not even true otherwise approximately 100% of the population wouldn't have insurance or access to medical care.

    The last part is a loaded statement, assuming that only a nation can be modern if it has UHC, we already know that's false.

    You're making a circular argument, where you can't counter the points I raise, so you revert back to making illogical emotionally laden responses, that are intended to be debate killers.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Is it free speech? If the government controls the how, who, when, what and where?
    Evidently, my paranoia level is not that high, I don't see that happening. What I see is a system that only the well to do have access to.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post

    But, what we need to do is listen to people who live in the countries that have universal care. I know that there are some on this board. Anyone from Canada, Australia, the UK, or anywhere else with UHC wanting to trade your system for ours? Anyone? Go ahead, respond to the post and tell us just how anxious you are to dump UHC for a US style of health care system.
    So far, the sound of crickets, somewhere far off a train whistle, otherwise silence.

    I've asked that same question on forums before, and never once had a positive response.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So far, the sound of crickets, somewhere far off a train whistle, otherwise silence.

    I've asked that same question on forums before, and never once had a positive response.

    Evidence of real life preference for UHC just gives more creedence to the studies that show our health care system is the most expensive and lesser rated systems in the world.

    I think that is why it is being ignored.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Except that's not even true otherwise approximately 100% of the population wouldn't have insurance or access to medical care.

    Your statement is what is "not true" - the uber-wealthy would not have a problem paying the premiums, no matter how high the premiums rise, ergo, you would never have 100% of the population not able to afford expensive insurance. And that is almost what we have, only the upper-middle class and wealthy can afford the cost of insurance in the US that covers a person most meaningfully.



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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Your statement is what is "not true" - the uber-wealthy would not have a problem paying the premiums, no matter how high the premiums rise, ergo, you would never have 100% of the population not able to afford expensive insurance. And that is almost what we have, only the upper-middle class and wealthy can afford the cost of insurance in the US that covers a person most meaningfully.
    Errrr, no.
    Not even close, most people (I think it's 75%) are happy with their insurance.
    But that's an aside, everyone has access to medical care if they need it.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Errrr, no.
    Not even close, most people (I think it's 75%) are happy with their insurance.
    75% of those that are rich enought to afford it are happy with it. What an endorsement!

    But that's an aside, everyone has access to medical care if they need it.

    And its never further away than their nearest emergency room right?
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