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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    What you're not getting is that it's the single payer system that will more likely screw the elderly.



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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The elderly already have a single payer health care system.
    I don't understand their confusion with Medicare?



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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The elderly already have a single payer health care system.
    Right now though, there are still other options.



    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    I don't understand their confusion with Medicare?

    And guess which "insurance" denies more claims than any other. Essentially, you want us all to be on a form of Medicare.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And guess which "insurance" denies more claims than any other. Essentially, you want us all to be on a form of Medicare.
    Some people I know who are on Medicare, have no complaints. Some who are on other insurances, not too happy.



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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So your complaint is our old people are too healthy? See Libertarian party, third door down on the right.
    That's not even close to what I said. My complaint is that we have created artificially high demand by removing the cost factor in the decision making process.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Some people I know who are on Medicare, have no complaints. Some who are on other insurances, not too happy.
    I have insurance and I have no complaints. I don't want to be on government insurance. That's the part y'all don't address, what if we just don't want to be in the government system? With single payer, can we still have a choice? No.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    That's not even close to what I said. My complaint is that we have created artificially high demand by removing the cost factor in the decision making process.
    I think the cost factor is doing just fine on its own. What is needed to control cost is a one payer system like all the other first world nations have.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    That's not even close to what I said. My complaint is that we have created artificially high demand by removing the cost factor in the decision making process.
    That's what they have to do, reframe what we say, and respond to that instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think the cost factor is doing just fine on its own. What is needed to control cost is a one payer system like all the other first world nations have.
    Could I opt out of the government system if I wanted to? If not, then no thanks.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Could I opt out of the government system if I wanted to? If not, then no thanks.
    It would depend on how it is set up, however in any case you would be able to buy additional coverage if you wish. So, the 250 million people that currently can afford health insurance would still have their health care. The only difference under a one payer system would be that the 50 million that can't afford it now will gain access to health care, and cost will go down for everyone.
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    Re: Are You in Favor of a Single Payer Health Care System?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think the cost factor is doing just fine on its own. What is needed to control cost is a one payer system like all the other first world nations have.
    Hahaha, ya right. What are your two possible outcomes there? The government collects taxes and pays the insurance based on rates before single payer. The demand for services increases as the perceived cost is removed from the consumer. The government then must limit services or increase taxes. One thing is certain, the cost will not go down.
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